[access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
- From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:51:40 -0000
No worries Ibrahim, I'm with you there. But it's got me aching to get my
hands on one to see it for myself. I'm sure it's one thing to read about
it, quite another to play with it in reality.
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 30 December 2009 19:47
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
Hi Hussein.
Don't get me wrong here, I wasn't suggesting that using your voice is any
bad thing, its great, convenient and for doing little things like writing
the odd text, jotting down a note or two or just dialing a contact it can be
very helpful and I'll miss Vlingo for this reason, but my main concern is
using my voice as a soul input method especially if your not going to
familiarize yourself with the onscreen keyboard or find it difficult. The
lack of productivity features in the IFone is glaring when you look through
the glitz and glammer of the interface, the shortcomings apparent.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:41 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>I have to agree with Ibrahim re the security downside of using your voice
>as
> the main input method. I've been bitten by that one before. OK so you
> could pedantically argue that one should know better and who would dictate
> personal correspondence in a public place, but often convenience overules
> rationality.
>
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>
> Hussein.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Ibrahim Gucukoglu
> Sent: 30 December 2009 19:34
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> Hi Peter.
>
> OK, so your happy to dictate personal or confidential text messages and
> emails are you? I used to use Vlingo on my Nokia phone, but apart from
> the
> fact that it isn't compatible with my new handset the N86, I'm beginning
> to
> wonder whether voice dictation is always the best way to input
> information.
> At least with the Nokia phones, you have a variety of ways of inputting
> texts, you have the number pad, an external keyboard, a Braille display if
> you use one and of course your voice. With the IFone, because the
> Bluetooth
>
> implementation is so bad, a keyboard can't be used so the only options are
> the on screen keyboard and your voice. Since I'd never want to rely
> totally
>
> on my voice especially if I wanted to write something highly personal to
> someone, its not a viable option for me.
>
> All the best, Ibrahim.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:19 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
>
>> I'd disagree and say it's a very good interface for the blind. The only
>> downfall is the typing but now that apps such as dragon dictate are
>> around
>
>> that problem is solved. I can work much quicker using the iphone/ipod
>> gestures then I ever could with Talks, having to try and move around a
>> screen and navigate menus.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:41 PM
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>
>>> Hi Hussein,
>>>
>>> You seem to make some assumptions here.
>>>
>>> I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch. It is not an efficient
>>> interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well accessible.
>>> But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals.
>>>
>>> It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example, as
>>> for
>>> productivity it really sucks big time in my view.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Hussein Patwa
>>> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your post. You're the first VI person I've come across using
>>> the
>>> Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of the
>>> device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware. If
>>> you
>>> don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle
>>> the
>>> touch interface? Would you say this is worth considering for others
>>> needing
>>> to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever kicks
>>> the
>>> bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle?
>>>
>>> Now for your questions. For video conversion I use AVS Video Converter.
>>> It
>>> is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can choose
>>> from, including for iPods. It's also accessible with my Supernova
>>> screen
>>> reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification. No doubt someone
>>> will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but the
>>> name escapes me right now.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________
>>> Have a pleasant day,
>>>
>>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>>
>>> Hussein.
>>>
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>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Steve Hyde-Dryden
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>
>>> OK Folks!
>>>
>>> Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas! Yes, the new
>>> 32
>>> GB Ipod Touch. I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and have
>>> got
>>> to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it. I
>>> have
>
>>> a
>>> couple of questions however. I know there is a more specialised list
>>> which
>>> T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list? Also, does
>>> anyone
>>> have the sub details?
>>>
>>> Now for my questions:
>>>
>>> 1 What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod? I believe
>>> they
>>> need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of
>>> these
>>> conversion tools? Also, where can I get the most accessible one from?
>>>
>>> When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way to
>>> easily switch between artis, album and song views? How easy is it to
>>> set
>
>>> up
>>> play lists?
>>>
>>> Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free? Also
>>> though,
>>> any paid ones which, again, are accessible?
>>>
>>> I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to manipulate.
>>> As
>>> an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in
>>> general?
>>> presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap? I
>>> hear it is akin to window eyes? So, does that mean you can get the list
>>> of
>>> links etc in safari?
>>>
>>> Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch? And my final question,
>>> How
>>> similar is it to the I-phone?
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
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