[access-uk] Re: Internet service providers

In addition to what Kevin says, a couple more points:

I would STRONGLY suggest against going with BT Broadband - not only is
it relatively expensive, but the call centre is absolute hell to deal
with.
For £6.49 a month, you can get Plusnet Value broadband, you keep the
same line with BT, you get a free router - just the 10GB cap you were
worrying about.

But let's looks at that cap: Using
http://www.numion.com/Calculators/Time.html we can see that to
download more than 10Gb in a month, assuming a fairly standard 25%
overhead, it would take you 496 hours or over 20 days. That's 20 days
downloading solidly, 24 hours a day, no drops or disconnects. So
unless you're doing more than that, I wouldn't worry about caps.

About dialup being more secure, absolutely not. A broadband router has
a built-in firewall with sophisticated rules to stop both incoming
attackers AND dodgy looking outgoing traffic. With a modem, you don't
get that. As long as you're running Microsoft Security Essential and
it's up to date, you'll be fine with broadband.

People get hacked when they install toolbars, or respond to emails
from a bank asking for a password check, or fill forms in to "confirm"
their identity. Not from being connected to the internet.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Kevin <drewdog2060@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Derek,
>
> With dial-up you run the risk of what are known as rogue diallers being
> installed if you accidentally click on a dodgy webpage and/or link. Rogue
> diallers basically redirect your connection to a premium rate number so that
> you are paying premium rates rather than local call rates. Broadband does,
> of course have risks, however the instalation of rogue diallers is not one
> of them and with good (free anti-virus) such as Avast and products such as
> the free version of Zone Alarm you can greatly reduce many risks. It is
> (obviously) your choiece but isn't it worth looking at some broadband
> comparison sites to see what deals are out there. In my opinion broadband is
> the best solution for the vast majority of people.
>
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Derek Hornby
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:15 AM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet service providers
>
> BT charges £25 a month  for unlimited broadband!
>
> And I think £14 for up to 10GB  cap!
>
> Anyway,  is I tnot  true that  dial-up is more  secure than broadband.
>
>
> Regards,  Derek
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Iain Lackie
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:14 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet service providers
>
> That is expensive when compared with broadband prices. My unlimited
> broadband is only £12 a month and I'm sure I could get a cheaper package if
> I really tried.
>
> Iain
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Derek Hornby
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:57 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet service providers
>
> Well I am with  BT Dial-up
> It costs me a flat rate £16 a month and it's for unlimited  access to
> Email and  internet.
>
> Given that I do  not download music, books,  movies, pictures,
> Games,  dial-up  meets my needs.
>
> I just wish  BT could address the  problem I have right now.
>
> When I try to  download  a  news paper  from Talking papers,
> The BT server will  stop  sending the data if the email
> Is long.  This problem has only started In past few weeks.
> So if say  The Guardian  was 400kb the download stops  when it gets to
> About 350kb
> Anyone any  idea  why this may  happen.
>
> Regards,  Derek
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Kevin
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 6:34 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet service providers
>
> I used to have dial-up many years ago and Was getting a bill of (at the
> highest) £80 a month. I am now with TalkTalk and pay, on average £20 a month
>
> for broadband, free UK landline calls (including 0845 and 0870 numbers). I
> would never wish to return to broadband.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Derek Hornby
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 12:10 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Internet service providers
>
> Hi  All
> I am maybe only one on  list that  still uses Dial-up  access
> Well it meets my needs.
>
> Anyway,  I  am having a problem that when I try to Download mail
> it keeps  stopping  too soon.
>
> BT says  and I quote:
>
>
> "You are under absolutely no pressure to have broadband
> from BT. Moving to another provider for your line wont
> take away these issues-it's all the same network which, is owned
> by BT Openreach."
>
> Is BT correct to  suggest that  being cut of  from a servier,
> Would still  happen  no matter which ISP I am with.
>
>
> Regards,  Derek
>
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