Hi Graham I wouldn't buy one of their radios on the current basis, desperately curious though I confess to be (smile). It's such a pity as the original intention to develop something with speech was great, as George demonstrated to some people a few years ago. But it's been scuppered, and what we now have to do is find out the true story of where this is going. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Page To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet radio update HI Jackie. I'm not sure if nasty is perhaps a bit too strong. Disorganised is a word I would prefer to use. You can't sell someone a product and then not offer support. it may be worth contacting Solutions Radio who make the Webbox to confirm that the website will still be available. More importantly, if you are paying for the product, you should have access to the interface so you can add your own material as required. This is what happens with other internet radio stations. Tempting though this all is, I would wait. TNAUK really do need to start making their terms and conditions a little clearer than that if you are to spend that kind of money buying the web box. Cheers Graham Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Cairns To: Access UK Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: [access-uk] Internet radio update Hi All Pin your ears back as I have an update that might be of interest to some. My last post to this list on the thread of Internet radios intimated I would let you know how I got on with a web radio that TNAUK are trialing. A couple of weeks ago, they agreed to send me a web radio when a customer who had finished with their set returned it to them. At the end of last week, however, I got an Email from Ted Davis to say that he had a web radio in stock if I wanted to purchase it for £275.00. So I thought to myself, in typical Jackie fashion: "Why would I want to buy a web radio if the trial is still going on, and nobody has forked out any money for these sets to my knowledge?" So I contacted TNAUK today, and spoke to Ted's colleague, Luke. The full story appears to be this. TNAUK are lending 15 web radios to people at the moment to trial. Anyone over and above those 15 who express an interest in the box must pay £275.00 for the privilege of owning one. The trial ends at the end of February, but, he tells me, things look "promising." According to TNAUK, RNIB have come to the same conclusion as TNAUK that this way forward is the best solution. I asked Luke how I would be supported with a web radio if I bought one, and he said that if I wanted an Internet radio station added to it, I could contact them with the details, and they would have it put in for me without the radio being returned to TNAUK. I used the scenario of wanting Sky Radio in it, and he said this would be possible. I then asked about future upgrades and support, and he said that it depended on what was to happen after the trial. So my conclusion is that they appear to want to sell you a web box, but can't guarantee you its lifespan after the trial ends next month with the 15 recipients who are doing that for nothing. Since I am under no disclosure, I don't see why you shouldn't be aware of this information. But I'm trying to suppress my own thoughts because I can't decide whether it's me who is going mad, or whether this whole thing has a very nasty taste about it. Sorry for the long post, but that's the latest. Jackie __________ NOD32 2828 (20080128) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com