[access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers

Hi Andy,

Huh!  Trannies are still a mystery to me.  I nearly bought a
post card radio at Bletchley Park this afternoon.

O.K.  Firewalls.  Hardware are generally the best, and only
need attention in exceptional circumstances.

Anti-Virus software.  A good one, set to automatically
update, needs little attention thereafter.

Anti-Spyware.  Personally I use Microsoft's Defender which,
although technically Beta, is proving well worth it, and is
still the only one of it's type which works AT THE TIME.
All the rest need you to do periodic scans.  Again, set up
to automatically update, and it pretty much takes care of
itself.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue
Sent: 16 April 2006 10:33
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers

Hi George.

I have two large Tamworth pigs who have turned my garden
into a swamp, with all this rain we are having, though the
mud they create is clearer than your explanation, grin.

But seriously, so I need a Firewall which only allows
invited guests, An Anti-Virus to supervise them and a
Spyware package to stop them  from steeling information.
That's three separate types of protection.  Can you not get
all of these in one package?  Norton has Internet Security
and Anti-Virus, but does it also have a spy checker?  It's
all rather complicated George, and makes me feel like not
having a party in the first place.  However, I do enjoy
having the computer and talking to people like yourself.  My
Father-in-Law does not have any of these problems with his
transistor radio in his garden shed!


Best wishes.
Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:15 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers


> Hi Andy,
>
> Let my put it this way:
>
> A firewall on a PC is like a set of keys to your house.
You
> might have a front door key, a back door key, shed key,
> garage key.
>
> A virus is like an unwelcome guest who walks in though an
> unlocked door without your knowledge, has a meal and
leaves
> the place looking like a council tip, and walks back out
> again.  You end up having to redecorate.
>
> Now you can still let unwelcome guests into your house,
but
> if you are having a party, one or more might cause damage,
> so the virus checker tries to stop anyone doing any
damage.
>
>
> However, there might still be guests around who sneak a
look
> in your drawers where you have your passport, household
> bills and such like, and while they don't actually steal
> your physical possessions, they make of note of all your
> personal details, and use them in shops and such like,
> pretending to be you.  That's where "Spy" protection comes
> in, better known as "Spyware Protection".
>
> Is the muddy water clearing any?
>
> George.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue
> Sent: 15 April 2006 18:02
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
>
> Hi George.
>
> Please forgive my ignoranceGeorge,  but is a firewall not
> the same thing as Anti-Virus?  I've uninstalled Sygate
> because I thought that the router was doing the same job
as
> Sygate was.
>
> Best wishes.
> Andy
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:20 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
>
>
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > I very much doubt the Router will have any anti-virus
> > software.  What it most likely will have is a hardware
> > firewall.
> >
> > George.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue
> > Sent: 15 April 2006 15:06
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
> >
> > Hi Andrew.
> >
> > So that's Norton on my computer and AVG on my wife's
> > computer.  She has the wireless card and my computer is
> > plugged into the Router.  The Router has it's own
> anti-virus
> > I believe.
> >
> > Best wishes.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:20 AM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
> >
> >
> > > Hi Andy,
> > >
> > > I would remove AVG on the system if you have Norton
> > enabled already.
> > >
> > > Andrew.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > > Of Andy Logue
> > > Sent: 15 April 2006 10:11
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
> > >
> > > Hi Carol.
> > >
> > > One thing for sure Carol, any future computer thatI
may
> > purchase will
> > > not
> > > have Norton near it.  You are right, it's just not
worth
> > the bother
> > > trying
> > > to get rid of it.  At the moment, I have it enabled on
> my
> > computer along
> > > with AVG and Pauline's computer has AVG.  The Router
has
> > some kind of
> > > anti-virus, and for the moment - fingers crossed, it
> seems
> > to be working
> > > fine.  I know now how to disable Norton from starting
on
> > boot-up, so if
> > > I
> > > get any problems with it, I'll simply turn it off.
> > However, if I do
> > > that,
> > > I'll need to have some other form of internet
security.
> > Quite  a lot of
> > > mail is now suggesting that when purchasing a
computer,
> > it's best to
> > > avoid
> > > those like mine, which is a pc world package, and to
> > purchase a blank
> > > computer with  nothing on it, and to buy a cd version
of
> > xp home or pro.
> > > I
> > > think that that is exactly what I'll do when I get my
> new
> > computer later
> > > this year.  Andrew and George have both provided
details
> > of computer
> > > providers who will build a computer for you from
scratch
> > and I am
> > > currently
> > > checking these out.  It was so easyin the old days
after
> > reformatting,
> > > to
> > > insert Windows 95 then all your drivers for printer,
> > scanner etc.  At
> > > least
> > > then, you knew what was on your computer.
> > >
> > > Best wishes.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:40 PM
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sorry, Andy, I think it should be "Goodbye Norton".
> It
> > worked
> > > > for me for a few years then, once it went wrong, it
> just
> > seemed
> > > > to stay that way.  I eventually, rather reluctantly,
> > gave up the
> > > > fight!  After all, it's too much of a pain to
remove!
> > > >
> > > > Just my thoughts!
> > > >
> > > > CAROL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:21:20 +0100
> > > > >Subject: [access-uk] Internet Security and Routers
> > > >
> > > > >Hi all.
> > > >
> > > > >At Christmas, I bought my wife a wireless router to
> > enable her to
> > > > go on the
> > > > >internet with her computer, which is located
> upstairs.
> > She got a
> > > > wireless
> > > > >card installed.  The router is downstairs and my
> > computer is
> > > > attached at
> > > > >that point.  Since getting this router I have had
> > nothing but
> > > > problems and
> > > > >had to re-format several times.  I've also had
> problems
> > getting
> > > > rid of
> > > > >Norton, which came with my computer.  I
re-formatted
> on
> > Sunday
> > > > and this
> > > > >time, rather than try to get rid of Norton and use
> > Sygate and
> > > > AVG, I decided
> > > > >to just let Norton do it's stuff.  Unfortunately,
> when
> > I did a
> > > > live update,
> > > > >my computer seemed to crash or stall.  I decided to
> > attempt to
> > > > turn Norton
> > > > >off and managed this, in terms of Internet Security
> and
> > Anti
> > > > Virus.  I then
> > > > >installed Sygate and AVG and my old problems
started
> > again.  So,
> > > > eventually,
> > > > >to my question.  Is having a router  perhaps
causing
> my
> > problems.
> > > > I mean,
> > > > >is there any implications when using Sygate, AVG or
> > Norton, when
> > > > you are
> > > > >attached via a Router.
> > > >
> > > > >I've really had it with this computer and fancy
just
> > visiting PC
> > > > World to
> > > > >get into dept again, but if the problems I am
having
> > are
> > > > associated to my
> > > > >Router, then a new computer would not resolve
> anything.
> > Any
> > > > advise or ideas
> > > > >would be very welcomed.
> > > >
> > > > >Best wishes.
> > > >
> > > > >Andy
> > > >
> > > >
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