HI Andy: the latest version of nis does have spyware and adware, as does 2005 anti spyware edition. btw, you can, of course, use single issue software too, a spyware checker virus checker, and an adware checker separately. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers : Hi George. : : I have two large Tamworth pigs who have turned my garden into a swamp, with : all this rain we are having, though the mud they create is clearer than your : explanation, grin. : : But seriously, so I need a Firewall which only allows invited guests, An : Anti-Virus to supervise them and a Spyware package to stop them from : steeling information. That's three separate types of protection. Can you : not get all of these in one package? Norton has Internet Security and : Anti-Virus, but does it also have a spy checker? It's all rather : complicated George, and makes me feel like not having a party in the first : place. However, I do enjoy having the computer and talking to people like : yourself. My Father-in-Law does not have any of these problems with his : transistor radio in his garden shed! : : : Best wishes. : Andy : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> : To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:15 PM : Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers : : : > Hi Andy, : > : > Let my put it this way: : > : > A firewall on a PC is like a set of keys to your house. You : > might have a front door key, a back door key, shed key, : > garage key. : > : > A virus is like an unwelcome guest who walks in though an : > unlocked door without your knowledge, has a meal and leaves : > the place looking like a council tip, and walks back out : > again. You end up having to redecorate. : > : > Now you can still let unwelcome guests into your house, but : > if you are having a party, one or more might cause damage, : > so the virus checker tries to stop anyone doing any damage. : > : > : > However, there might still be guests around who sneak a look : > in your drawers where you have your passport, household : > bills and such like, and while they don't actually steal : > your physical possessions, they make of note of all your : > personal details, and use them in shops and such like, : > pretending to be you. That's where "Spy" protection comes : > in, better known as "Spyware Protection". : > : > Is the muddy water clearing any? : > : > George. : > : > -----Original Message----- : > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue : > Sent: 15 April 2006 18:02 : > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers : > : > Hi George. : > : > Please forgive my ignoranceGeorge, but is a firewall not : > the same thing as Anti-Virus? I've uninstalled Sygate : > because I thought that the router was doing the same job as : > Sygate was. : > : > Best wishes. : > Andy : > : > : > : > : > ----- Original Message ----- : > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> : > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:20 PM : > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers : > : > : > > Hi Andy, : > > : > > I very much doubt the Router will have any anti-virus : > > software. What it most likely will have is a hardware : > > firewall. : > > : > > George. : > > : > > -----Original Message----- : > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue : > > Sent: 15 April 2006 15:06 : > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers : > > : > > Hi Andrew. : > > : > > So that's Norton on my computer and AVG on my wife's : > > computer. She has the wireless card and my computer is : > > plugged into the Router. The Router has it's own : > anti-virus : > > I believe. : > > : > > Best wishes. : > > : > > Andy : > > : > > : > > ----- Original Message ----- : > > From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> : > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : > > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:20 AM : > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers : > > : > > : > > > Hi Andy, : > > > : > > > I would remove AVG on the system if you have Norton : > > enabled already. : > > > : > > > Andrew. : > > > : > > > -----Original Message----- : > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf : > > > Of Andy Logue : > > > Sent: 15 April 2006 10:11 : > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers : > > > : > > > Hi Carol. : > > > : > > > One thing for sure Carol, any future computer thatI may : > > purchase will : > > > not : > > > have Norton near it. You are right, it's just not worth : > > the bother : > > > trying : > > > to get rid of it. At the moment, I have it enabled on : > my : > > computer along : > > > with AVG and Pauline's computer has AVG. The Router has : > > some kind of : > > > anti-virus, and for the moment - fingers crossed, it : > seems : > > to be working : > > > fine. I know now how to disable Norton from starting on : > > boot-up, so if : > > > I : > > > get any problems with it, I'll simply turn it off. : > > However, if I do : > > > that, : > > > I'll need to have some other form of internet security. : > > Quite a lot of : > > > mail is now suggesting that when purchasing a computer, : > > it's best to : > > > avoid : > > > those like mine, which is a pc world package, and to : > > purchase a blank : > > > computer with nothing on it, and to buy a cd version of : > > xp home or pro. : > > > I : > > > think that that is exactly what I'll do when I get my : > new : > > computer later : > > > this year. Andrew and George have both provided details : > > of computer : > > > providers who will build a computer for you from scratch : > > and I am : > > > currently : > > > checking these out. It was so easyin the old days after : > > reformatting, : > > > to : > > > insert Windows 95 then all your drivers for printer, : > > scanner etc. At : > > > least : > > > then, you knew what was on your computer. : > > > : > > > Best wishes. : > > > : > > > Andy : > > > : > > > : > > > : > > > ----- Original Message ----- : > > > From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> : > > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : > > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:40 PM : > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers : > > > : > > > : > > > > Sorry, Andy, I think it should be "Goodbye Norton". : > It : > > worked : > > > > for me for a few years then, once it went wrong, it : > just : > > seemed : > > > > to stay that way. I eventually, rather reluctantly, : > > gave up the : > > > > fight! After all, it's too much of a pain to remove! : > > > > : > > > > Just my thoughts! : > > > > : > > > > CAROL : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- : > > > > >From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx : > > > > >To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : > > > > >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:21:20 +0100 : > > > > >Subject: [access-uk] Internet Security and Routers : > > > > : > > > > >Hi all. : > > > > : > > > > >At Christmas, I bought my wife a wireless router to : > > enable her to : > > > > go on the : > > > > >internet with her computer, which is located : > upstairs. : > > She got a : > > > > wireless : > > > > >card installed. The router is downstairs and my : > > computer is : > > > > attached at : > > > > >that point. Since getting this router I have had : > > nothing but : > > > > problems and : > > > > >had to re-format several times. I've also had : > problems : > > getting : > > > > rid of : > > > > >Norton, which came with my computer. I re-formatted : > on : > > Sunday : > > > > and this : > > > > >time, rather than try to get rid of Norton and use : > > Sygate and : > > > > AVG, I decided : > > > > >to just let Norton do it's stuff. Unfortunately, : > when : > > I did a : > > > > live update, : > > > > >my computer seemed to crash or stall. I decided to : > > attempt to : > > > > turn Norton : > > > > >off and managed this, in terms of Internet Security : > and : > > Anti : > > > > Virus. I then : > > > > >installed Sygate and AVG and my old problems started : > > again. So, : > > > > eventually, : > > > > >to my question. Is having a router perhaps causing : > my : > > problems. : > > > > I mean, : > > > > >is there any implications when using Sygate, AVG or : > > Norton, when : > > > > you are : > > > > >attached via a Router. : > > > > : > > > > >I've really had it with this computer and fancy just : > > visiting PC : > > > > World to : > > > > >get into dept again, but if the problems I am having : > > are : > > > > associated to my : > > > > >Router, then a new computer would not resolve : > anything. : > > Any : > > > > advise or ideas : > > > > >would be very welcomed. : > > > > : > > > > >Best wishes. : > > > > : > > > > >Andy : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > >** To leave the list, click on the : > > immediately-following link:- : > > > > >** : > > : > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] : > > > > >** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: : > > > > >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : > > > > >** and in the Subject line type : > > > > >** unsubscribe : 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