Hi Andy, One would never rule it out completely, but I'd say the chances of it being router related are pretty remote, aside from the possibility that it might be an open/close port issue. I'd be inclined to look at how you are reformatting, and whether or not and when you apply all the updates, etc.. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue Sent: 13 April 2006 12:21 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Internet Security and Routers Hi all. At Christmas, I bought my wife a wireless router to enable her to go on the internet with her computer, which is located upstairs. She got a wireless card installed. The router is downstairs and my computer is attached at that point. Since getting this router I have had nothing but problems and had to re-format several times. I've also had problems getting rid of Norton, which came with my computer. I re-formatted on Sunday and this time, rather than try to get rid of Norton and use Sygate and AVG, I decided to just let Norton do it's stuff. Unfortunately, when I did a live update, my computer seemed to crash or stall. I decided to attempt to turn Norton off and managed this, in terms of Internet Security and Anti Virus. I then installed Sygate and AVG and my old problems started again. So, eventually, to my question. Is having a router perhaps causing my problems. I mean, is there any implications when using Sygate, AVG or Norton, when you are attached via a Router. I've really had it with this computer and fancy just visiting PC World to get into dept again, but if the problems I am having are associated to my Router, then a new computer would not resolve anything. Any advise or ideas would be very welcomed. Best wishes. Andy ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq