[access-uk] Re: Internet Explorer 7
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:12:16 +0100
Hi Emma,
From a totally blind person's point of view, Firefox is a pain in the neck
sometimes. With both Window-Eyes and JFW, it doesn't always expose graphics
that are properly labelled in IE. In other words, its MSAA support is far
inferior to that of IE. The speed advantage is also lost if you try IE 7.
So again, for me, it's still pretty second-rate.
All the best
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Emma Wright
Sent: 10 August 2006 13:02
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Explorer 7
If like me, you like to be able to properly enlarge text in your browser,
over ride the font style and background colours then Firefox is far better
than IE. Firefox also works much better with the screenreader that I use
from time to time (ZoomText) than IE does and seems more stable. I'd never
go back to IE, although I do have to have Firefox display a page in IE
format from time to time as Firefox is not supported by all sites. It's
interesting to come across someone who doesn't prefer Firefox though, as
virtually everyone I've spoken to who's tried it likes it!
Emma Wright
On 10/08/06, Ray's Home <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Steve, I wouldn't say Firefox is quite as revolutionary as many claim, but
the Windows update problem is handled well by Firefox as it automatically
excludes Windows Update from the pages it will load. In other words, going
to Windows Update does bring up IE6 even though Firefox may be set as the
default browser.
You are right, Firefox does display many .differently, but for the most part
I've had no problems accessing most web sites. I think it is certainly true
though that the vast majority of web page authors optimise for IE which most
people do use.
Firefox does have a slight speed advantage too, and I find the ability to
have multiple home pages is valuable to me. I'm also keen on anything that
improves on Internet Explorer's level of security.
From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Steve Nutt
Hi Ray,
I don't see what all the fuss is about Firefox personally. OK Tabbed
browsing is there, but while it is better for security, you can't use it
with Windows Update, and many sites that rely on Active X, so I personally
will stick to IE. Also, I find that some links are simply missing in FF
when I go to web sites, that are better displayed in IE. Some HTML is not
rendered nearly so well in FF in my view. So what is all the fuss about?
All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of
Ray's Home
Sent: 10 August 2006 10:31
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Explorer 7
Sam, I'd err on the side of caution. In the recent past I think people have
found that if they cannot get on with IE7 reverting back to 6 has been quite
hard. Maybe the unistall problem has been solved by now, but I don't know.
Why not give Firefox a try? If you have V7 of JAWS or you are using
Window-Eyes 5.5 you will have no problems with it, and the keyboard
navigation is very near identical. Don't know how HAL copes with Firefox,
but I've a feeling that v7 works quite well with Firefox. Firefox is said to
be worth it for security reasons alone, but it has always had tabbed
browsing which, of course, IE7 will have.
From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Howie, Sam
Hi All
Quick question I was just wondering if anyone has been brave enough to
install the beta version Internet Explorer 7 if so what do you think of it.
Cheers
Sam
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