That's really good to know. Although I don't use it anymore, it's great to know it's still alive and kicking. What client do you use? I was sighted the last time I used IRC, I don't know much about doing it with a screen reader. Regards, Léonie. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: 16 October 2007 20:20 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Instant Messaging how does it work Hey, Irc is still alive and kicking. I use the Deepspace servers for my Irc sessions, and, depending on what time you go on and stuff, it can range from very quiet to very lively. Chris Hallsworth BrailleNote mPower user Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Léonie Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Instant Messaging how does it work Although it has IM capability, Skype is primarily a VOIP application. VOIP is used by many companies instead of traditional telephone communication, mostly because of the cost saving that can result. I'm not sure about IRC. I think it's probably been superseded by IM. I used to use IRC all the time about 10 years ago, but don't know anyone now who still runs an IRC server. IM's just that much easier. Regards, Léonie. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: 16 October 2007 03:12 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Instant Messaging how does it work And what about Skype and even Irc? They may become business tools in the not too distant future. In fact, Skype offers a business version, called Skype for Business. Just my two pence worth. Chris Hallsworth BrailleNote mPower user Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Léonie Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:14 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Instant Messaging how does it work Derek, I'm afraid I don't know enough about Braille phones, or minicom, to help on that front. As for the rest... Yes, it is possible to use IM if you don't have broadband. As I said before, the caution is the cost of staying online. With IM, you can only be contacted if you are online. The application sits in your System Tray and notifies you when you receive a message. Staying online for long periods of time with a dial up connection, especially if you pay by the hour, can be costly. With broadband of course, you are always connected to the Internet, so this isn't a concern. IM is very much aimed at social chat. It is used in the workplace, but mostly as an inter office communication tool. We use it at work for this purpose, but would not consider it an appropriate means of communicating with a client. Whether it becomes a feasible means of business communication remains to be seen. It wasn't all that long ago that electronic copies of documents were frowned upon as inappropriate. I suspect however, that we have quite a long way to go before IM is even remotely considered in this way. Regards, Léonie. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Derek Hornby Sent: 15 October 2007 19:26 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Instant Messaging how does it work Hi Leonie Well this is what someone emailed me. "I want you to consider a very important utility that is now available to all broadband internet users. It is called Instant Messaging. It is very like your existing textphone facility. However it works over the internet. It would allow you to hold text conversations with almost everyone who has an internet connection. It is now used by millions of people around the world. If you adoped Instant Messaging you would be free to communicate with almost everyone - not just minicom users." I fee that the above is a little misleading. If a deafblind person has access to a Braille text phone, then they are not restricted to calling just minicom users, because they could use BT's textdirect to access typetalk. Also if i have this right, going by posts on this thread, One does not need to upgrade to broadband to be able to use Instant Messaging. And am I correct that really Instant Messaging, is aimed more at social chat. One cannot use Instant Messaging in place of making a business phone call. Or can anyone see Instant Messaging replacing the need to make telephone calls. is this likely? 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