Hi Keith, would you not have to have Linux on the system in order for a linux boot cd to work? Although it's possible to have more than one OS on a system you can only have one or the other. I've never heard of a system able to boot using one OS, then load another one. There is image for windows, which works together with image for dos for restoring, and there's image for Linux. If they weren't totally separate programmes for separate systems they would surely be incorporated into one programme. I have a feeling that a cd made with image for linux will only see linux images, not windows images.
John.----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barrett" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi John,Well, instead of booting a dos cd, you should be able to boot a linux cd, speakup then comes up talking and you give it the required instructions.Only snag may be that drive lettering in linux is different so you may have issues there.I suppose it just depends on which utilities are included in the linux boot immage.It would be worth following up, though, because speakup can work in a very minimal system and I think you would not find another way of getting speech so early on.Perhapse you could start by asking the company if it is possible to restore a windows system with their linux option. It so, then problem solved.On 30/09/2010 15:05, john coley wrote:Hi Keith, I shouldn't think that would be possible, would it? I can't see how. It surely would only be relevant to a linux system. I have just emailed Terabyte Unlimited again, since, judging from their reference to Linux they misunderstood what I was asking them. As you haven't come across Image For Windows before I'll explain what is currently possible using it for a blind user. It will do either full or partial backups, which can either be saved to DVD or to another drive. If saving to DVD there is no problem for a blind user, as it's just a matter of booting with the DVD. The problem arises if the image is saved to another drive. Restoring an image saved to another drive involves making an Image For Dos recovery CD and booting with it. The programme interface then opens and it needs to be told where the image is, and where to restore it to. Since we have no speech feedback in a pre windows environment it isn't possible to enter the information. One of the restore options in Image For Windows is Restore Automatic. This however only works when restoring to drives other than C, since the C drive is in use and therefore locked. I have suggested to Terabyte that it would be useful to people in our situation if it were possible for Image For Windows to reboot the system once the required information has been entered and restore an image to the C partition. The answer to your question is that yes, it's easy to back up to DVD, as long as you're happy doing that. It just isn't as yet possible for us to restore images saved to another drive. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barrett" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:40 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Image for WindowsHi John, I am not familar with this software but could you use the linux version to restore your hd? Speakup is a screen review system for linux and can be patched in to the kernel so that speech comes up early in the boot system. On 29/09/2010 20:00, john coley wrote:Hi Everybody, I've emailed Terabyte this evening on the subject of imaging to another drive, and, more to the point the fact that the option isn't open to blind users to do that owing to the lack of speech in a pre-windows environment. I received a strange reply. See what you think. I've pasted below both my email to them and their reply. John.hi, I am a blind user of Image For Windows. My problem is this. Although imaging to DVD works excellently where possible, in situations where DVDisn't an option it isn't possible for a blind person, hence ascreenreader user to image to another drive as you in fact recommend, orrather it isn't possible to restore an image, due to the lack of speech in a pre-windows environment. Would it be possible for restore settings to be made from within Windows? It wouldn't seem to be possible as it stands, as when I've tried it won't work as of course the C drive is in use and consequently locked. It would be wonderful for people in my situation if it were possible to make the restore settings, then for Image For Windows to reboot and restore. I hope your developers can give this consideration. If you need to get back to me my email address is johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>. Thanks, John. Hello,Image for Linux has speakup available. The speakup.txt document is foundin the help folder when you extract image for linux. 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