hi Steve, Thanks for clarifying the event. It makes things clearer. brian -------------------------------------------------- From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:37 AM To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: I am apauled
Brian,I'm the RNIB person involved with this event so I thought I'd reply. We're not suggesting visually impaired people have to pay to get something sighted people can get for free by going into a shop.Yes, you can go into any Apple store and ask to have products demonstrated and - chances are - the staff will be knowledgeable enough about the accessibility options to demo with these. And if you buy an Apple product you can sign up for some hourly training sessions once a week for a year at a very cheap cost.What you might find more difficult is getting the point of view of visually impaired Apple users alongside the chance to ask questions of those users and try things out on the products, all in the same place and at the same time. We would thus hope that you get something from the day beyond what the Apple shops and accessibility-oriented mailing lists and websites offer.The cost is to cover lunch, refreshments and the travelling costs of the presenters, who are all giving their time for free. The Apple associate is a partially sighted student who works part-time in an Apple store.I hope that clarifies the situation a bit. Steve --- Steve Griffiths Digital Accessibility Development Officer Royal National Institute of Blind People 58-72 John Bright Street Birmingham B1 1BN Tel: 0121 665 4255 Email: steve.griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.rnib.org.uk -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of the williams familySent: 09 December 2010 10:44 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] I am apauledSighted people can go into any high street store and check out products for free. So if you are visually impaired you have to pay £45 or £50 to try outcomercially available products, and with a representative from the company concerned present? Access to products and services legislation, am i misunderstanding something? Brian -------------------------------------------------- From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:32 PM To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Taste the Apples, 6th January 2011, LondonTaste the Apples, 6th January 2011, London. The British Computer Association of the Blind and The Royal National Institute of Blind People invite you to an EyeT4All day showing the powerful, easy to use, and free access features of the Apple range of products. Get your hands on an iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch, iMac, and MacBook. The great thing about Apple access is that it is built-in and provided as standard at no extra cost.The day presents the full range of access features for blind and partiallysighted people. One stream will be trying out the speech features of Voiceover. The other stream will focus more on magnification. You can choose which stream to join but some sessions will be together. Separate rooms are available for a limited number of short personal hands on sessions but please let us know your wishes well in advance. The presenters include an Apple associate, experienced users and BCAB certified trainers. The July event was sold out quickly, so please book soon. Location: RNIB headquarters, 105 Judd Street, London WC1H 9NE. Cost: £50 (£45 reduced rate for BCAB members) including tea/coffee and buffet lunch. Time: 9:40 to 16:30. Bookings: through the BCAB website: www.bcab.org.uk All reservations and payments are taken online. If this is a problem please contact Mike. For more information please contact: Dr. Mike Townsend president@xxxxxxxxxxx +447967658028. 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