[access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?

  • From: Dean Wilcox <wilcoxdean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:30:57 -0700

On the accessibility topick, its nice to see that soon we should have an 
accessible UK National Rail Enquiries app, apparently it is going into beta 
soon.


On 4 Apr 2010, at 12:38, Hussein Patwa wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It's not, but in a bid to keep customers on the Apple train they did make it
> clear that keeping accessibility as a focus was 'very' much in the best
> interests of the developer if they wanted their app to be Apple certified.
> 
> Personally I think we're going to go down the Nokia route and everyone will
> just end up doing their own thing.  I don't think Apple have the pull they
> seem to think they do on the app development market at the moment, as not
> sticking with them in terms of market delivery is hardly an economic burden
> on the developer at the moment.
> 
> H.
> 
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Dean Wilcox
> Sent: 04 April 2010 18:55
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
> 
> I wasn't aware accessibility was mandatory.
>  Compatibility with 3rd party apps is good, I wouldn't like to give a
> percentage of success but I always feal like it is worth a go just to see.
> On 3 Apr 2010, at 17:01, Hussein Patwa wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> A couple of points I wanted to query:
>> 
>> 1.  You mention Apple apps and some third party apps are accessible with
>> voiceover.  Now if we assume Apple would want the vast majority, if not
> all
>> apps to be accessible if only so people will use them and continue to buy
>> from them, what do you think of the move now by developers to not go
> through
>> the Apple Store for ap marketing due to their tightened quality control
>> measures?  I've heard from quite a few dev's who've said they are
> basically
>> going to go open market with their apps and damn the Apple store.
> Obviously
>> whereas this is good for consumer choice, it'll have a definite impact on
>> accessibility as it is no longer a mandatory criteria for app
> certification
>> (loosely speaking).
>> 
>> 2.  Regarding the iPhone 4.0, you might want to look into the iPhone HD
>> which Apple are rumoured to be bringing out in May/June.  Also, firmware
>> updates for the current iPhone series.  Personally I hope it's sooner
> rather
>> than later so we can at least get the Jailbreak fix the mods have been
>> sitting on since 3.13 firmware was released.
>> 
>> 3. Is there any substance to the rumour that v4 firmware will bring
>> multi-tasking to the whole range of compatible devices?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> _______________________________________
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>> 
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>> 
>> Hussein.
>> 
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
>> James & Nash
>> Sent: 02 April 2010 12:44
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
>> 
>> Hi Audrey,
>> 
>> The Iphone 3GS series now come with Voice Over, which gives complete
> access
>> to all of the applications on the phone. From what I have heard, there are
>> many other third party applications which also work with Voice Over.
>> 
>> As you are probably aware, the IPhone is a touch screen device, but from
> my
>> initial exploration, it seems very intuitive once you get the hang of it.
>> Niether of us have one yet, but we're looking into the possibility for the
>> future. 
>> 
>> Many blind people have switched to the IPhone and are very happy with it
> by
>> all accounts. The only warning I would give is that like all Apple
> products,
>> the IPhone is considerably more expensive than your standard cell phone.
> But
>> the initial cost is nothing compared to the gains that you will be getting
>> from an in-built Screen Reader. If I were you though I would wait for a
> few
>> more months though as Apple are slated to release IPhone 4.0 in June. I do
>> not know if this is purely a software upgrade or a brand new cell phone.
> If
>> it is the latter, then the older models may come down in price. 
>> 
>> Hope this helps 
>> 
>> TC
>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>> On 1 Apr 2010, at 11:39, Audrey Tonge wrote:
>> 
>>> HI all.
>>> 
>>> I am probably way behind here, but wanted to know how accessible I-phones
> 
>>> are these days for totally blind users?  I can now get web access and am 
>>> often better off using a mobile in various situations in my life.  Just 
>>> wondered if they are worth going for?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Audrey 
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