On the accessibility topick, its nice to see that soon we should have an accessible UK National Rail Enquiries app, apparently it is going into beta soon. On 4 Apr 2010, at 12:38, Hussein Patwa wrote: > Hi, > > It's not, but in a bid to keep customers on the Apple train they did make it > clear that keeping accessibility as a focus was 'very' much in the best > interests of the developer if they wanted their app to be Apple certified. > > Personally I think we're going to go down the Nokia route and everyone will > just end up doing their own thing. I don't think Apple have the pull they > seem to think they do on the app development market at the moment, as not > sticking with them in terms of market delivery is hardly an economic burden > on the developer at the moment. > > H. > > > > _______________________________________ > Have a pleasant day, > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > Hussein. > > Hussein Patwa > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Dean Wilcox > Sent: 04 April 2010 18:55 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones? > > I wasn't aware accessibility was mandatory. > Compatibility with 3rd party apps is good, I wouldn't like to give a > percentage of success but I always feal like it is worth a go just to see. > On 3 Apr 2010, at 17:01, Hussein Patwa wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> A couple of points I wanted to query: >> >> 1. You mention Apple apps and some third party apps are accessible with >> voiceover. Now if we assume Apple would want the vast majority, if not > all >> apps to be accessible if only so people will use them and continue to buy >> from them, what do you think of the move now by developers to not go > through >> the Apple Store for ap marketing due to their tightened quality control >> measures? I've heard from quite a few dev's who've said they are > basically >> going to go open market with their apps and damn the Apple store. > Obviously >> whereas this is good for consumer choice, it'll have a definite impact on >> accessibility as it is no longer a mandatory criteria for app > certification >> (loosely speaking). >> >> 2. Regarding the iPhone 4.0, you might want to look into the iPhone HD >> which Apple are rumoured to be bringing out in May/June. Also, firmware >> updates for the current iPhone series. Personally I hope it's sooner > rather >> than later so we can at least get the Jailbreak fix the mods have been >> sitting on since 3.13 firmware was released. >> >> 3. Is there any substance to the rumour that v4 firmware will bring >> multi-tasking to the whole range of compatible devices? >> >> Best, >> >> _______________________________________ >> Have a pleasant day, >> >> Kind Regards and Best Wishes, >> >> Hussein. >> >> Hussein Patwa >> Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) >> Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) >> Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa >> Skype: patwaspotterfan2 >> GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter >> Web: www.patwanet.co.uk >> My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com >> >> Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of >> James & Nash >> Sent: 02 April 2010 12:44 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones? >> >> Hi Audrey, >> >> The Iphone 3GS series now come with Voice Over, which gives complete > access >> to all of the applications on the phone. From what I have heard, there are >> many other third party applications which also work with Voice Over. >> >> As you are probably aware, the IPhone is a touch screen device, but from > my >> initial exploration, it seems very intuitive once you get the hang of it. >> Niether of us have one yet, but we're looking into the possibility for the >> future. >> >> Many blind people have switched to the IPhone and are very happy with it > by >> all accounts. The only warning I would give is that like all Apple > products, >> the IPhone is considerably more expensive than your standard cell phone. > But >> the initial cost is nothing compared to the gains that you will be getting >> from an in-built Screen Reader. If I were you though I would wait for a > few >> more months though as Apple are slated to release IPhone 4.0 in June. I do >> not know if this is purely a software upgrade or a brand new cell phone. > If >> it is the latter, then the older models may come down in price. >> >> Hope this helps >> >> TC >> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny >> On 1 Apr 2010, at 11:39, Audrey Tonge wrote: >> >>> HI all. >>> >>> I am probably way behind here, but wanted to know how accessible I-phones > >>> are these days for totally blind users? I can now get web access and am >>> often better off using a mobile in various situations in my life. 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