[access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
- From: william lomas <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:09:36 +0100
vlingo works great!
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On 4 Apr 2010, at 22:50, James & Nash wrote:
> There is a dictation software for the IPhone called Vlingo I think.
>
> TC
> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
> On 4 Apr 2010, at 20:40, Hussein Patwa wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Interesting. I'm due to try out an iPhone for a couple of weeks soon after
>> my friend raved about it. The typing is the only thing that really lets it
>> down in my opinion. Now if they'd built speech recognition into it, that
>> would change the whole appeal massively. On the plus side, it's got a damn
>> impressive mail client, although to balance that you're going to be stuck
>> with iTunes and it's many quirks unless you're prepared to hack around it.
>>
>> Oh, and I just love how Apple are not at all shy in telling us the right way
>> to unlock it and bypass their security systems. That's classic and sure to
>> be a hit with customers.
>>
>> Roll on the courier with my iPhone!
>>
>> _______________________________________
>> Have a pleasant day,
>>
>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>
>> Hussein.
>>
>> Hussein Patwa
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> James & Nash
>> Sent: 04 April 2010 19:16
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
>>
>> Hi Hussein
>>
>>
>>> On 3 Apr 2010, at 17:01, Hussein Patwa wrote:
>>>
>>>> what do you think of the move now by developers to not go through
>>>> the Apple Store for ap marketing due to their tightened quality control
>>>> measures? I've heard from quite a few dev's who've said they are
>> basically
>>>> going to go open market with their apps and damn the Apple store.
>> Obviously
>>>> whereas this is good for consumer choice, it'll have a definite impact on
>>>> accessibility as it is no longer a mandatory criteria for app
>> certification
>>>> (loosely speaking).
>>
>> I think that the developers are doing what they think is right. I am not
>> sure that it will have a detrimental impact on accessibility though, as the
>> great majority of developers - at least in my experience, are very receptive
>> to requests for accessibility. I think though that it may hurt Apple
>> themselves, although their desire for consistency and exactness is
>> commendable, they may have shot themselves in the foot by trying to exercise
>> such tight controls over their developers.
>>
>>>> 2. Regarding the iPhone 4.0, you might want to look into the iPhone HD
>>>> which Apple are rumoured to be bringing out in May/June. Also, firmware
>>>> updates for the current iPhone series. Personally I hope it's sooner
>> rather
>>>> than later so we can at least get the Jailbreak fix the mods have been
>>>> sitting on since 3.13 firmware was released.
>>
>> I am awaiting with interest Apple's 4.0 release. As i said, I do not have an
>> IPhone yet, and I'm not sure that I will, although the prospect of in-built
>> accessibility is appealing. Also, as a long-time Mac user, i already have
>> some experience with Apple's approach and so am not in the same position
>> that many other Blind users who are full-time Windows users may be. The
>> continued misrepresentation of Apple's approach by many key Blindness
>> organizations is concerning, as there is a genuine apprehension - even
>> dislike and distrust of Apple's products - in fact, anything that does not
>> carry the Windows and Windows Access solutions stamp of approval. Voice
>> Over is not perfect, but the IPhone has opened up the possibility for many
>> Blind users who would otherwise not have looked twice at Apple to explore
>> the accessibility that they have introduced.
>>
>>>> 3. Is there any substance to the rumour that v4 firmware will bring
>>>> multi-tasking to the whole range of compatible devices?
>>
>> I am not sure about this, because as others have said, for good or bad,
>> Apple are very secretive about their innovations. I will continue to look
>> and report back to the list. But I would not be surprised if it was coming.
>>
>> TC
>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> A couple of points I wanted to query:
>>>>
>>>> 1. You mention Apple apps and some third party apps are accessible with
>>>> voiceover. Now if we assume Apple would want the vast majority, if not
>> all
>>>> apps to be accessible if only so people will use them and continue to buy
>>>> from them, what do you think of the move now by developers to not go
>> through
>>>> the Apple Store for ap marketing due to their tightened quality control
>>>> measures? I've heard from quite a few dev's who've said they are
>> basically
>>>> going to go open market with their apps and damn the Apple store.
>> Obviously
>>>> whereas this is good for consumer choice, it'll have a definite impact on
>>>> accessibility as it is no longer a mandatory criteria for app
>> certification
>>>> (loosely speaking).
>>>>
>>>> 2. Regarding the iPhone 4.0, you might want to look into the iPhone HD
>>>> which Apple are rumoured to be bringing out in May/June. Also, firmware
>>>> updates for the current iPhone series. Personally I hope it's sooner
>> rather
>>>> than later so we can at least get the Jailbreak fix the mods have been
>>>> sitting on since 3.13 firmware was released.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Is there any substance to the rumour that v4 firmware will bring
>>>> multi-tasking to the whole range of compatible devices?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________
>>>> Have a pleasant day,
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Hussein.
>>>>
>>>> Hussein Patwa
>>>> Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK)
>>>> Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP)
>>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa
>>>> Skype: patwaspotterfan2
>>>> GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter
>>>> Web: www.patwanet.co.uk
>>>> My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com
>>>>
>>>> Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>>>> James & Nash
>>>> Sent: 02 April 2010 12:44
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Audrey,
>>>>
>>>> The Iphone 3GS series now come with Voice Over, which gives complete
>> access
>>>> to all of the applications on the phone. From what I have heard, there
>> are
>>>> many other third party applications which also work with Voice Over.
>>>>
>>>> As you are probably aware, the IPhone is a touch screen device, but from
>> my
>>>> initial exploration, it seems very intuitive once you get the hang of it.
>>>> Niether of us have one yet, but we're looking into the possibility for
>> the
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> Many blind people have switched to the IPhone and are very happy with it
>> by
>>>> all accounts. The only warning I would give is that like all Apple
>> products,
>>>> the IPhone is considerably more expensive than your standard cell phone.
>> But
>>>> the initial cost is nothing compared to the gains that you will be
>> getting
>>>> from an in-built Screen Reader. If I were you though I would wait for a
>> few
>>>> more months though as Apple are slated to release IPhone 4.0 in June. I
>> do
>>>> not know if this is purely a software upgrade or a brand new cell phone.
>> If
>>>> it is the latter, then the older models may come down in price.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>
>>>> TC
>>>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>>>> On 1 Apr 2010, at 11:39, Audrey Tonge wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HI all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am probably way behind here, but wanted to know how accessible
>> I-phones
>>>>> are these days for totally blind users? I can now get web access and am
>>
>>>>> often better off using a mobile in various situations in my life. Just
>>>>> wondered if they are worth going for?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Audrey
>>>>>
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