[access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
- From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:53:34 +0100
Ah, the same as for S60 then. Thanks.
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
James & Nash
Sent: 04 April 2010 22:50
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
There is a dictation software for the IPhone called Vlingo I think.
TC
James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
On 4 Apr 2010, at 20:40, Hussein Patwa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Interesting. I'm due to try out an iPhone for a couple of weeks soon
after
> my friend raved about it. The typing is the only thing that really lets
it
> down in my opinion. Now if they'd built speech recognition into it, that
> would change the whole appeal massively. On the plus side, it's got a
damn
> impressive mail client, although to balance that you're going to be stuck
> with iTunes and it's many quirks unless you're prepared to hack around it.
>
> Oh, and I just love how Apple are not at all shy in telling us the right
way
> to unlock it and bypass their security systems. That's classic and sure
to
> be a hit with customers.
>
> Roll on the courier with my iPhone!
>
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>
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>
> Hussein.
>
> Hussein Patwa
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> James & Nash
> Sent: 04 April 2010 19:16
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
>
> Hi Hussein
>
>
>> On 3 Apr 2010, at 17:01, Hussein Patwa wrote:
>>
>>> what do you think of the move now by developers to not go through
>>> the Apple Store for ap marketing due to their tightened quality control
>>> measures? I've heard from quite a few dev's who've said they are
> basically
>>> going to go open market with their apps and damn the Apple store.
> Obviously
>>> whereas this is good for consumer choice, it'll have a definite impact
on
>>> accessibility as it is no longer a mandatory criteria for app
> certification
>>> (loosely speaking).
>
> I think that the developers are doing what they think is right. I am not
> sure that it will have a detrimental impact on accessibility though, as
the
> great majority of developers - at least in my experience, are very
receptive
> to requests for accessibility. I think though that it may hurt Apple
> themselves, although their desire for consistency and exactness is
> commendable, they may have shot themselves in the foot by trying to
exercise
> such tight controls over their developers.
>
>>> 2. Regarding the iPhone 4.0, you might want to look into the iPhone HD
>>> which Apple are rumoured to be bringing out in May/June. Also, firmware
>>> updates for the current iPhone series. Personally I hope it's sooner
> rather
>>> than later so we can at least get the Jailbreak fix the mods have been
>>> sitting on since 3.13 firmware was released.
>
> I am awaiting with interest Apple's 4.0 release. As i said, I do not have
an
> IPhone yet, and I'm not sure that I will, although the prospect of
in-built
> accessibility is appealing. Also, as a long-time Mac user, i already have
> some experience with Apple's approach and so am not in the same position
> that many other Blind users who are full-time Windows users may be. The
> continued misrepresentation of Apple's approach by many key Blindness
> organizations is concerning, as there is a genuine apprehension - even
> dislike and distrust of Apple's products - in fact, anything that does
not
> carry the Windows and Windows Access solutions stamp of approval. Voice
> Over is not perfect, but the IPhone has opened up the possibility for many
> Blind users who would otherwise not have looked twice at Apple to explore
> the accessibility that they have introduced.
>
>>> 3. Is there any substance to the rumour that v4 firmware will bring
>>> multi-tasking to the whole range of compatible devices?
>
> I am not sure about this, because as others have said, for good or bad,
> Apple are very secretive about their innovations. I will continue to look
> and report back to the list. But I would not be surprised if it was
coming.
>
> TC
> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A couple of points I wanted to query:
>>>
>>> 1. You mention Apple apps and some third party apps are accessible with
>>> voiceover. Now if we assume Apple would want the vast majority, if not
> all
>>> apps to be accessible if only so people will use them and continue to
buy
>>> from them, what do you think of the move now by developers to not go
> through
>>> the Apple Store for ap marketing due to their tightened quality control
>>> measures? I've heard from quite a few dev's who've said they are
> basically
>>> going to go open market with their apps and damn the Apple store.
> Obviously
>>> whereas this is good for consumer choice, it'll have a definite impact
on
>>> accessibility as it is no longer a mandatory criteria for app
> certification
>>> (loosely speaking).
>>>
>>> 2. Regarding the iPhone 4.0, you might want to look into the iPhone HD
>>> which Apple are rumoured to be bringing out in May/June. Also, firmware
>>> updates for the current iPhone series. Personally I hope it's sooner
> rather
>>> than later so we can at least get the Jailbreak fix the mods have been
>>> sitting on since 3.13 firmware was released.
>>>
>>> 3. Is there any substance to the rumour that v4 firmware will bring
>>> multi-tasking to the whole range of compatible devices?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
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>>>
>>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>>
>>> Hussein.
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
>>> James & Nash
>>> Sent: 02 April 2010 12:44
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
>>>
>>> Hi Audrey,
>>>
>>> The Iphone 3GS series now come with Voice Over, which gives complete
> access
>>> to all of the applications on the phone. From what I have heard, there
> are
>>> many other third party applications which also work with Voice Over.
>>>
>>> As you are probably aware, the IPhone is a touch screen device, but from
> my
>>> initial exploration, it seems very intuitive once you get the hang of
it.
>>> Niether of us have one yet, but we're looking into the possibility for
> the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> Many blind people have switched to the IPhone and are very happy with it
> by
>>> all accounts. The only warning I would give is that like all Apple
> products,
>>> the IPhone is considerably more expensive than your standard cell phone.
> But
>>> the initial cost is nothing compared to the gains that you will be
> getting
>>> from an in-built Screen Reader. If I were you though I would wait for a
> few
>>> more months though as Apple are slated to release IPhone 4.0 in June. I
> do
>>> not know if this is purely a software upgrade or a brand new cell phone.
> If
>>> it is the latter, then the older models may come down in price.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps
>>>
>>> TC
>>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>>> On 1 Apr 2010, at 11:39, Audrey Tonge wrote:
>>>
>>>> HI all.
>>>>
>>>> I am probably way behind here, but wanted to know how accessible
> I-phones
>>>> are these days for totally blind users? I can now get web access and
am
>
>>>> often better off using a mobile in various situations in my life. Just
>>>> wondered if they are worth going for?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Audrey
>>>>
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