[access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please

Steve - the fear I think we have is if our screen reader is "knocked out of 
the water" we won't then have a working machine to get back to the list and 
ask what to do next! -

Andy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please


| Hi Andy,
|
| Most of them are not tricky, except for installing Windows.  Now that I
| wouldn't recommend without sight, unless you really know what you are 
doing.
| But updating video and sound drivers?  I would say that is relatively 
easy.
| Just run an installer and hit next a couple of times, making sure you
| uncheck some free games that some of them want to install on your system,
| and that's all there is to it.  Now agreed, it could knock your screen
| reader out the water, but for me, I have never have a video or sound 
driver
| leave me without the use of a computer.  I am just saying that most of 
this
| is a lack of confidence on the blind person's part, and more usually,
| someone else telling them they can't do it without sighted assistance, 
which
| is worse than the blind person themselves not having confidence.  Yes, 
there
| are risks, but it is certainly doable.
|
| All the best
|
| Steve
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of
| Andy Collins
| Sent: Saturday 16 February 2008 13:14
| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please
|
| You see Steve - these things that are difficult without sight but 
possible,
| I'm sure many of us would like to know about, and how to do, it's part of
| our independent living, but also mostly because we just don't have sighted
| help most of the time. Has anybody put together any work arounds for these
| tricky tasks, when there is non-sighted help available? -
|
| Andy
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:33 PM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please
|
|
|| Hi George,
||
|| Dunno.  All I can say is that I update all my drivers all the time with
| very
|| few problems, unless the driver itself is causing problems.  I have had
| this
|| occasionally, particularly with an updated IDE driver.  The system
| wouldn't
|| boot after it, and I had to get back to last known good configuration.
| That
|| is real fun without sight, but possible <Smile>.
||
|| All the best
||
|| Steve
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
| Of
|| George Bell
|| Sent: Friday 15 February 2008 20:02
|| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please
||
|| Perhaps 90% of the time, Steve, but McGillicuddy is a real bar steward 
for
|| the other 10%.
||
|| George.
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
|| Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:24 PM
|| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please
||
|| Hi George,
||
|| This is incorrect.  With both Window-Eyes and JAWS, you can easily do it.
|| What happens is that on the reboot when the video drivers have been
| updated,
|| both of them will ask you to reboot while they update the video
| intercepts.
|| You are behind the times <Smile>.  In fact, I even tried it with Hal and
| it
|| works.
||
|| All the best
||
|| Steve
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell
|| Sent: Friday 15 February 2008 16:12
|| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please
||
|| Hi Andy,
||
|| You don't need to uninstall the old ATI drivers, but I'd be a shade wary
|| about installing new video drivers without sighted help to hand. It will
|| most likely break the video chain to your screen reader, leaving you
| without
|| speech, and the necessity to re-install your screen reader.
||
|| George.
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
|| Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:34 PM
|| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Subject: [access-uk] Help with drivers please
||
|| Hi all -
||
|| I'm pasting my message from yesterday here again, as it got no responce,
| and
|| I'm sure there are people on this list that can help, so please do if you
|| can, it's always apreciated.
||
|| Start of message:
||
|| Hi all -
||
|| Ok, a scan of my PC tells me that certain drivers need updating, and I'm
|| trying to understand quite what to do, and what I need to download!
||
|| When I click on the link from driveragent.com to update the driver, the
| page
|| that comes up says:
||
|| "The following packages will provide display drivers and capture drivers
|| that can be used with various video capture programs."
||
|| And then it lists what is in the package, the first thing being the
| display
|| driver, is this all I'll need, or will I need the rest of the package 
that
|| includes things like 'catalyst control centre' or the 'WDM Integrated
|| Driver.'
||
|| Can I ask too, if I need to uninstall from 'add/remove'
|| within the control
|| panel, the existing ati drivers that these updates are to replace?
||
|| Thanks as ever -
||
|| Andy
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