Very well said Carole. A real pleasure to read. Will not comment to cut down on the topic traffic on the list.
Eleanor & Neela----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:18 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints
Hi,I realise, having written this, that it's probably not too appropriate for this list. I won't post again on the subject and hope it doesn't spring off lots more of the same but, having written, perhaps I'll just give my two cents here.More often than not there's probably error both on the part of the dog and the person.When I was training recently, I fell off a side kerb on a very busy narrow main road and would have got driven over by a few cars before anyone could have stopped, if my instructor hadn't caught me "in the nick of time" by applying pressure under my elbow, thus keeping me upright! ... Yes, it was scary!On considering that particular incident, which so easily could have been a fatal accident, I thought at first it was the cyclist at fault because he was on the pavement, riding towards us, and just kept going. I didn't even know about him until I was told later by my instructor. I certainly didn't hear him. It wasn't till later, when we discussed the matter some more, that I discovered that my dog did push a little to the right to try to avoid the bike, but he kept coming. Of course, that was a little too much and my foot went overboard. Was he to blame? Well, in view of the experience he'd had with me to date, I couldn't really blame him, though he did need to be more cautious. Should my instructor have known better than to let us do it in these circumstances? Well, I have to get the dog to the vet's and, with great care and consideration, and a cane in my right hand when returning, I do believe I can do that route, so probably he wasn't to blame either, though perhaps he should have warned me to keep the speed down even more and shouted to the cyclist in good time.Had we been unlucky enough to fall, the situation would have opened up to a lot of nasty questions ...I'm just really saying, probably in a very round about way, that it could well be that it's not just the dog that is doing something wrong. Maybe there were other unforeseen circumstances that you may never know about now.It is true that we can't all work to the same standard and we'll never get everything always right (especially those of us who are totally blind) and we can only take as much care as we can. Taking advice from our instructors is one such way.-- Carol Pearson carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaintsJackie wrote "Now you need a guide dog for the city, and perhaps another dog with a different temperament for more sedate strolls? You're having a laugh!!" I am yes, because you have missed the point. Smiles Not all guide dog owners can safely manage very busy conditions.And, not all blind people can cope with a guide dog, just as not all blindpeople can manage to get out alone.It's like saying if you show someone how to use Jaws, and the student doesnot follow your instructions, are you to blame when things go seriously wrong? It's same thinking with a guide dog. Yes, sometimes the dog is at fault, but not always. Sometimes it's the user at fault, if they don't follow the instructions they have been given. Regards, Derek ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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