Hi Peter, Neither does a roller tip if you use it right. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley Sent: Wednesday 3 December 2008 23:07 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints A long cane with a jumbo tip does not get stuck in pavements. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints > Interesting one Jackie. Now I am of the opposite view point. I hate a > white stick, it gets stuck in the pavement and above all I feel 'blind' > with it. My Guide Dog is my eyes and that is for true. > > Eleanor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:03 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints > > >> So you wear a heavy coat for the winter, and a lighter one in the >> summer. You have an evening bag to go out somewhere special (least I >> do), and an ordinary bag for day-to-day purposes. Now you need a guide >> dog for the city, and perhaps another dog with a different temperament >> for more sedate strolls? You're having a laugh!! (chuckle). >> >> Frankly, it's why I would never ever have another guide dog if I were >> paid millions, because there are too many rules and regulations, and the >> dog always seems to be right in the eyes of the Association, not the >> owner. I've heard time and again from people that the standard of dog >> training has dropped. Each to their own, of course, but give me the >> white cane any day of the week. >> >> >> Jackie Cairns >> Braille Support Adviser >> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sight and Sound Technology >> Welton House North Wing >> Summerhouse Road >> Moulton Park >> Northampton >> NN3 6WD >> Telephone: 01604 798024 >> Fax: 01604 798090 >> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of Derek Hornby >> Sent: 03 December 2008 11:38 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints >> >> Hi Andy >> You A did say and I quote: >> >> "each of us are a credit to the organization," >> >> So no problems then! >> >> >> "So people like me, who have a little peripheral vision, are walking >> about with dogs, which can in a flick of a second, get us killed." >> >> But those people witn no sight at all, must surely be at more risk! >> >> i feel the mista\ke you have made is to make threats. >> I mean you said you: >> >> "Made a lot of noise and threats about seeing a lawyer" >> >> In another post you said you were told: >> >> "it was not quite a good idea to take my dog into Glasgow during the >> festive season stating that the streets were very busy at this time of >> the year." >> >> Well given GDBA said that, I feel that's proof they are taking your >> safety seriously. >> >> If they feel you are not able to manage very busy conditions, they >> will not recommend you do it. >> >> Regards, Derek >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 881 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq