Léonie, Never underestimate the sheer obliviousness of the male! I've only been blind for 6 years now and I'm not sure I noticed much more when I could see, it's a bloke thing. Cheers Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Léonie Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints This is a good point. I've met one person four or five times. On at least two of those occasions I have been carrying either my symbol cane or my long walking cane. It was only after having apparently bumped into him at a conference and, since I naturally hadn't spotted him, that he mentioned to a colleague that I'd blanked him completely. When my colleague explained the situation, he was absolutely astounded. It's reasonably evident that there is something wrong with my eyes, as they're almost completely silvery in colour where the iris should be. Besides, you'd think the long white cane might have given it away in any case... Léonie. -- http://www.tink.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Saqib Sent: 03 December 2008 19:07 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints Hi Eleanor.. Don't take this the wrong way as we're all in the same predicament. You would look just as blind weather you had a guide dog or a cane. Its how confident you come across will impress the public and they might just forget you are visually impaired smiles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints > Interesting one Jackie. Now I am of the opposite view point. I hate > a white stick, it gets stuck in the pavement and above all I feel 'blind' > with > it. My Guide Dog is my eyes and that is for true. > > Eleanor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:03 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints > > >> So you wear a heavy coat for the winter, and a lighter one in the >> summer. You have an evening bag to go out somewhere special (least I >> do), and an ordinary bag for day-to-day purposes. Now you need a >> guide dog for the city, and perhaps another dog with a different >> temperament for more sedate strolls? You're having a laugh!! (chuckle). >> >> Frankly, it's why I would never ever have another guide dog if I were >> paid millions, because there are too many rules and regulations, and >> the dog always seems to be right in the eyes of the Association, not >> the owner. I've heard time and again from people that the standard >> of dog training has dropped. Each to their own, of course, but give >> me the white cane any day of the week. >> >> >> Jackie Cairns >> Braille Support Adviser >> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology >> Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton >> NN3 6WD >> Telephone: 01604 798024 >> Fax: 01604 798090 >> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Derek Hornby >> Sent: 03 December 2008 11:38 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Guide Dpog complaints >> >> Hi Andy >> You A did say and I quote: >> >> "each of us are a credit to the organization," >> >> So no problems then! >> >> >> "So people like me, who have a little peripheral vision, are walking >> about with dogs, which can in a flick of a second, get us killed." >> >> But those people witn no sight at all, must surely be at more risk! >> >> i feel the mista\ke you have made is to make threats. >> I mean you said you: >> >> "Made a lot of noise and threats about seeing a lawyer" >> >> In another post you said you were told: >> >> "it was not quite a good idea to take my dog into Glasgow during the >> festive season stating that the streets were very busy at this time >> of the year." >> >> Well given GDBA said that, I feel that's proof they are taking your >> safety seriously. >> >> If they feel you are not able to manage very busy conditions, they >> will not recommend you do it. >> >> Regards, Derek >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security >> System. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 881 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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