[access-uk] Re: Goodmans

  • From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:17:53 -0000

Fair for once I must come to the defence of RNIB, I did not get it from them but from the Switch Over people. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 12:30 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Goodmans
Eleanor, The RNIB do have Braille instructions for the Goodmans, its poor that they don't ask you when you place an order for one. There's also an electronic version, or at least there was an electronic version of the instructions on the Goodmans product page of the RNIB shop site. 
Yusuf

On 19/03/2012 10:07, Eleanor Burke wrote:

How does one update the tuning on the Goodmans Free View Box? How come
we never got Braille or CD instructions for its use? I have been away
and have forgotten what button does what. Can anyone tell me the layout
of the buttons please?

Eleanor>>>>

But I do recognise that not being able to access the TVs

own menus, including scanning for channels and setting up
the TTS independently are drawbacks, as is the inability to
access the various web features.


It is a step forward, I don't think we've ever had 30 tVs

with TTS onboard released at the same time. It'll be
interesting to see if other TV manufacturers take up the
challenge.

Yusuf



On 18/03/2012 19:36, martin wilsher wrote:

I agree with all that has been said here. the thing needs

to be

accessible from the word go, and this isn't. what on

earth were the

RNIB thinking of when giving their blessing to this box?

if it is not

accessible when you turn it on, it's not accessible at

all imho.


----- Original Message -----
*From:* Iain

Lackie<mailto:ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

*To:*

access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

*Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:28 PM
*Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Panasonic Viera smart TV

with Voice

guidance

For a long time now, I have been saying that one of

the points which

impresses me still about the Sonus DAB radio is that

it allows

access to the menu system. The station names may be

out of date, but

I can live with that. Any television which doesn’t

allow access by

voice to the menu system cannot in my view truly be

described as

accessible, especially if you have to gain access to

the menu system

to switch the voice on.
Iain
*From:* Barry Hill<mailto:barry.hill3@xxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:20 PM
*To:*

access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

*Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Panasonic Viera smart TV

with Voice

guidance

Now, did the RNIB say we want this that and the

other, for Panasonic

to simply do what they wanted and use the

endoursement of the RNIB

as a publicity stunt, or did the RNIB fall short of

their obligation

to VI users?

Cheers

Barry

*From:*access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On

Behalf Of *william lomas
*Sent:* 18 March 2012 5:53 PM
*To:* access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Panasonic Viera smart TV

with Voice

guidance

and yet they are supposed to have consulted with

RNIB during this

development cycle?

On 18 Mar 2012, at 17:13, Gary Robinson wrote:

Hi all,

yesterday I had a chance to have a lookat the new

Panasonic Viera

smart TV range which includes voice guidance and

audio description

as mentioned on this list and on Insight radio last

month.


On the plus side, you can choose male/female voice,

set voice rate

and volume. The voice is good, it sounded better

than my Goodmans

Smart talk box and more responsive.

IT speaks the channel, programme you are on and

works within the

programme guide, but sadly doesn't work within the

various settings

menus.

Ironically therefore like audio description on DVDs

you probably

won't be able to turn on the voice guidance without

sighted help.


Sadly therefore and very frustratingly given the

sheer amount of

functionality and connectivity these TVs have

(Internet,

wifi,DLNA,USB,SD etc) most of the functionality will

be wasted so

far as a visually impaired user is concerned.

There is a Viera remote control App for Apple

devices, but i don't

think this will help in providing access to the

multiplicity of set

up menus which controlmost of this very flexible

TV's features.


The full price of the 32" model is around £499

though it will

probably be available cheaper if you look around.

whilst Panasonic are probably to be commended on

including voice

guidance as standard across the range, it is

nontheless very

frustrating to be in effect short changed by the

limitations of what

they have provided.

I am going to try to speak to someone in panasonic

technical

department and see if there is any way of getting

the set up screen

information output to an external device which might

give a way of

getting more access to these otherwise very

impressive TVs.


Gary


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