[access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home

  • From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:45:24 +0100

DJ, I aim this comment at you and the mods, and I'm not overtly trying
to be personal when I say that, as good as it can be to have opposing
points of view, in Derek's case it seems to be determination to be the
last man standing on the field of battle.

Maybe it is time to call time on this, but some interesting technical
and human rights issues are emerging, in spite of Derek!

Cheers,

From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf
Of Dj Paddy


I can't remember if it was here or Vi Gen, but I'd also asked Derek if
you
truly believed this was acceptible, if he was happy about it and not
just
trying to be devils advocate and wanting a debate/argument.
Nothing...

Dj Paddy
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:22 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at
home


>I also said:
>
> "Personally, I'd like the added security that the home chip and pin
brings
> but, as I'm blind, it's not
> going to be available for me."
>
> Any comments on that, Derek?
>
> Barry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:24 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin
at
> home
>
>
> Barry said
> "Someone has already pointed out that the chip and signature is a
> voluntary
> option,"
> Actually  the  reason there is chip  and signature is  because
> some  organisations  campaigned for it,  on the  grounds that
> there are  some people that are not  able to use  chip and PIN.
>
> You  also said:
>
> "this new gadget is >not.  It's either use it with sight, or tough."
>
> The fact  remains that  there is no disadvantage for the blind
> customer (and not a one person has proven different)
> just same as there is no disadvantage for the chip and signature.
>
> I do however accept  some blind people are *unreasonable* with
demands..
>
> Regards,
> Derek

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