[access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home

  • From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:51:01 +0100

If access to higher level security is not a service, then the bank could 
dispose with all security for the visually impaired, and we would still have 
access to, what you refer to as, banking  service.  Would this be less 
favourable treatment?

The bank do take on some of the extra risk, but not all of it.  It is still 
up to the individual to prove that they had taken reasonable steps to 
protect themselves.  This means that a visually impaired person is expected 
to have up-to-date security on their machine and the capability to use it 
properly, but the users of the ACD devices will not have to.  In effect, the 
ACD could be the only security needed beyond the present set up.

The DDA section 19 (1c) states that It is unlawful for a provider of 
services to discriminate against a disabled person in the standard of 
service which he provides to the disabled person or the manner in which he 
provides it to him.

 Personally, I do think that the chip and signature card is less secure, 
but, in the case of people who you claim can use a keypad but don't, it is 
their choice.  Where is the choice with the ACD?  The only option for *all* 
blind people is for a less secure system.

Barry


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home


Barry asked

"So, isn't access to higher level security a service?"

No the service is access to banking service.
How that access is provided, doesn't matter,  as long as the customer is
treated same as the key pad users.

 "Isn't being offered a different level of security being offered an
inferior
service?"

No because  it's the bank,  not the  customer, taking on the extra risk,
just as they do for  chip and  signature customers.

Do you object to  chip and signature if no why  not?
A customer that is *only* blind,  visually impaired,  can have
a chip  and signature card,  why  should they have this option when they
don't
need that option do they?

Regards,
Derek

e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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