[access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home

We'll leave it for a day or so and if no new arguments come up it'll be time to close it as it's not progressing anymore. 

There's been quite a few thought provoking arguments though from all sides.

Dj paddy
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d.j. don't you think as moderator this thread has run it's course?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:32 PM
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Derek,

Your use of "able bodied" is insulting, I'm sure that many of us will take
offence from that reference
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Hi Barry
I thought  I had  answered your question but I am sorry if I didn't.

I do  believe that what the bank is offering is acceptable, because
the blind customer is not going to be at any greater risk, or
disadvantage,
compared to the able-bodied sighted  customers.

If this case  was in court for a DDA  judgment, how would you show
that  the blind  customer  is  at a disadvantage?

All you can show is that access to the service is  being offered ina
different
way, but that's  not  illegal!
The bank will  simply argue  that  as they are taking on the extra risk,
(as they do for  chip  and signature customers) there is  no extra
risk for the blind customers.  The bank will point out  that they  have
agreed to  cover for fraud. So at end of the day, the blind customer is
no worse off comapred to any other customer.

Regards,
Derek

e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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