[access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home
- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena-j@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:21:44 +0100
Hi
Furthermore, the way I read it, the responsibility is still upon the non keypad
user, whereas, the pad user doesn't have that same Burdon of responsibility.
Obviously, it can only be said so many times, that the new system has been
developed for a reason.
Gena
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barry Hill
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:15 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home
Yes, I'd say we are being offered an inferior level of security. The
current level is inferior to the proposed level and we have to miss out on
it. It is like living in an apartment block where every flat has their
security system up-graded because the neighbourhood has become dangerous,
but they don't install the new system in the blind persons flat because they
can't use the keypad. Yes, there is insurance, but the blind person is
still more vulnerable to attack.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:09 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home
Barry,
Isn't this what the banks believe that ACD will be for the time being? or
until the fraudsters catch up with the technology at least? There are some
on this list that will continue to cowtail to establishment and 'do what
they're told' because there independent judgement of living in a barrier
free society is clouded.
Kind regards
Colin
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:45 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home
> So, if the banks introduced an absolutely fool proof method of banking
> that
> was impervious to any fraud, but it was not accessible for the blind,
> would
> it be equal treatment if the bank said that we could carry on as we are
> now?
>
> Barry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:22 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at
> home
>
>
> Colin said
> "Obviously the principal of being treated at a disadvantage in
> respect to the security implications is beyond the simple comprehension of
> some on this list!"
>
> No, some of us just know the meaning of the word "disadvantage"
>
> Those that cannot use the key pads at home are not being told they cannot
> access the same banking services at those that can use the key pads.
> They are simply being allowed to carry on accessing the services
> same way as now. There is no lower standard of service, there is no
> disadvantage to the customer because the bank has guaranteed to cover
> for fraud.
>
> If this case was in court for a DDA judgment the bank would win,
> because the bank can show that the blind customers are *not*
> at a greater risk, compared to others.
> But not one blind person can show different.
> All that some can show is that access to the service is being offered
> in a different way, but that's not illegal under DDA.
>
>
> Regards,
> Derek
>
> e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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