We seem to be going all round the houses with this one, and we've done it before too! Tristram is right of course. Human assistance, usually helpful is there at the cash point. Don't be afraid or too proud to use it. On the question of devices communicating wirelessly with a very small device we carry around, ; don't dismiss this idea too lightly. I could forsee, or is it dream? of a device that could do this and more. Why not something combining EPOS communication with electronic signage - if only this pathetic country could get its act together and enable us to identify things when out and about. Maybe too it could be combined and work alongside Sat Nav. Handheld Sat nav devices are already around I believe, and there's even been talk, (pub unintended) that a talking hand-held sat nav device might become available, I mean a truly hand held one, that is. Dream on. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Tristram Llewellyn The cashier should be able to let you all of those things, including where to put the card which varies with different types of terminal as part of the transaction and do it better than any synthetic speech could. They will let you know also if the PIN is entered incorrectly. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn