[access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:16:42 +0100
What Steve says about Egg is good news, and I suspect that for those of us who
are on-line that is where the answer to Simon's problem will lie - if its a
technological answer you are after.
That leads me to wonder and speculate. Is there anything on the horizon
whereby banks and other institutions with obvious security issues will be able
to use secure email for correspondence of this nature? It would seem such a
logical solution to me.
By the way, we've drifted a little as always. Having deleted a lot of the
header garbage that went with the original message its nice to know the Union
Men have got around to disability issues. that is, when they've enough time
left over from sexual orientation and gender issues!
Ray
Personal emails: Email me at
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Hi Simon,
:
: This is incorrect. If you get an Egg card, you can find out your PIN
: online. How inaccessible is that? If you have a computer, as you surely
: do, you can find out your PIN online from Egg at least.
:
: All the best
: --
: Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users.
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
: goshawk
:
: the problem with chip&pin that I as a totally blind person have is that none
: of the banks/credit card companies will tell you the pin, so how are you
: supposed to use it if no one will tell you what it is or supply it in
: accessible formats?
: it is the same with the number on the back of cards that a lot of places ask
: for now, none of the banks/card companies will give a blind person that info
: either.
:
: Simon
:
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
:
: > Hi.
: >
: > While I am glad of the information here, I do wish there wasn't such a
: > negative light shed on chip and pin. It is a great system, and a better
: > alternative than the signature in my view, which is easy to forge. I do
: > appreciate that some people can't use it, but there seems to be this thing
: > that the blind can't use it also. For goodness' sake, it is just like
: > dialing a telephone, and so long as you remember the PIN, you're OK for
: the
: > most part.
: >
: > An even better system I saw recently, was in the USA. They want a piece
: of
: > ID before you can use your credit card, such as a driving licence, or
: > passport. I thought this too was a good system.
: >
: > All the best
: > --
: > Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users.
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
: Of
: > David Quarmby
: >
: > For information; please circulate
: >
: > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:24 PM
: > Subject: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
: >
: >
: > The TUC has been supporting the Disability Rights Commission in its work
: to
: > prevent discrimination against disabled people - especially learning
: > disabled people - through the adoption of chip and pin technology. Having
: > failed to make real progress in discussion with the banks etc, the DRC is
: > now considering legal action if suitable cases can be identified.
: >
: > They have asked the TUC for help in identifying individuals who may have
: > suffered discrimination through the failure of suppliers to accept
: > alternatives to Chip and Pin.
: > They ask anyone with a possible case to first contact the DRC Helpline,
: > 08457 622633 (textphone 08457 622644, fax 08457 778878) - helpline
: advisers
: > will discuss the case with the caller and if appropriate pass it on to the
: > legal team.
: > Please can you circulate this information through any networks and
: encourage
: > anyone - especially a learning disabled member - with a possible case, to
: > contact the DRC helpline.
: > Thanks,
: > Peter Purton
: > Policy Officer, Disability, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual Transgender Rights
: > Equality & Employment Rights Department, TUC tel. 020 7467 1271 email
: > ppurton@xxxxxxxxxx
: >
: > Visit the website www.tuc.org.uk/changingtimes
: >
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