[access-uk] Re: Fw: DRC Call for disabled internet revolt

Trace,

        The problem with your situation is that your ISP is not based in the
UK. The DRC is a body setup by the UK Government and has absolutely no
powers overseas. Had you been dealing with a UK company, bound by UK law,
then the picture may have been different.

Regards,
Tink. 

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Spring Flower
Sent: Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:11
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: DRC Call for disabled internet revolt

I wouldn't hold your breath.

I'm having problems with a list admin on one of the rootsweb lists, on my
dial up account taglines are put on the bottom of my mail by the isp and
she's taken acception to them, if I'm right, put up to it by a third party
and on those grounds I refuse to move it over to the broadband.  i contacted
the DRC as I considered that it could be discrimination if someone was
unable to cope with changing isps because of their sight loss and having to
get someone else to do it could be expensive, as the list host is in
California they didn't want to know.

Trace

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Fw: DRC Call for disabled internet revolt


> This appeared on the Blind Webbers list a few days back, and doesn't come 
> in
> this instance from a UK based person but from Geof Collis in Ontario, 
> Canada.
>
> In a note to me he describes himself as 'just a messenger for something I
> feel strongly about..'  Its seems to be that legislation in Canada doesn't
> yet allow for taking inaccessable web site design to court.
>
>
> Are we going to see an uprising as the article seems to suggest?
>
> Ray
>
> Personal emails:  Email me at
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Geof Collis"
>>FYI
>>Call for disabled internet revolt
>>
>>By Mark Ballard
>>The Register (UK), March 10, 2006
>>
>>Being nice has achieved little
>>
>>The Disability Rights Commission plans to call upon disabled internet 
>>users
>>to rise up against inaccessible website owners and help it take complaints
>>with the force of law.
>>
>>The rabble-rousing message will be broadcast by the DRC following the 
>>launch
>>of new guidelines to amend what it says are limitations in the WAI
>>accessibility standards set by the World Wide Web Consortium .
>>
>>Threats to website owners accompanied the DRC's first notable publicity
>>grab, marked by the publication of its formal investigtion into web
>>accessibility two years ago.
>>
>>"We are serving notice that the Disability Rights Commission will use all
>>its powers to secure compliance on this very important matter," warned DRC
>>commissioner Michael Burton at the time, while his lawyer said those who
>>refused to settle out of court would be "pursued all the way".
>>
>>But the warning has never been honoured, even though a high profile court
>>case would do wonders for its cause. Six years since the Disability
>>Discrimination Act made it illegal to produce an inaccessible website in 
>>the
>>UK, the laws have gone limp through disuse.
>>
>>Even the Royal National Institute for the Blind, which has been more
>>diligent in its pursuit of ignorant web owners, has only brought legal
>>action against two sites, and both of those cases where settled out of
>>court.
>>
>>The problem is that the campaigners need disabled people who are prepared 
>>to
>>complain and bring action with their assistance. The DRC gets around 2,000
>>calls a week, but very few complaints. Most calls are pleas for advice and
>>help. The commission reckons that when disabled people come across
>>inaccessible sites they usually just move on to one they can use.
>>
>>Without disabled people prepared to challenge the establishment in the
>>courts, the DRC can do little more than provide advice and guidelines. But
>>the marketing for its latest latest publication will include a call for
>>disabled people to complain about offenders so it can take action against
>>them.
>>
>>"It will be a part of our marketing to encourage people to ring us and
>>complain," a DRC spokeswoman said today.
>>
>>Of course, corporations and public sector organisations are easily
>>embarrassed into making their sites accessible, as many already have. And
>>few are likely to want to commit commercial suicide by making a bigoted
>>stand against accessibility in the courts.
>>
>>Then the educational work of the DRC does help. The criticism in its 
>>formal
>>report that the WAI guidelines were too technical has been followed up 
>>with
>>the launch this week of its own code, which recommends adhering to WAI
>>standards, but provides further advice on non-technical issues such as
>>commissioning websites.
>>
>>This could be useful, as 80 per cent of developers told the DRC that their
>>clients were not interested in building accessible sites.
>>
>>Most notable is the guide's insistence that the automated testing most
>>website owners do to ensure accessibility is inadequate. The DRC asserts
>>that it is vital that disabled people are used to test a site.
>>
>>Its new guidelines have been developed in conjunction with the British
>>Standards Institute, so have some significant kudos. That does mean,
>>however, that it costs #30 to acquire them and the price does not include 
>>a
>>kite mark that considerate site owners can use to display their 
>>credentials.
>>
>>Yet the softly-softly approach appears to have achieved little. The DRC
>>revealed two years ago that 81 per cent of websites were inaccessible. 
>>They
>>still are, it says. .
>>
>>
>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/10/disabled_web_revolt/
>>
>>If it's sanity you're after, there's no recipe like laughter.
>>    --Henry Rutherford Elliot/*
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