[access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
- From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:32:49 -0000
Hi Ibrahim,
I've just used
accessibility@xxxxxxxxx
Cheers,
Barry.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:28 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>
> Hi Barry.
>
> Ah well, that settles it then *smile*. If there's an app I really want
> to
> use, I'll ask the developer to try and make it more accessible, but
> more
> often than not, I just shrug my shoulders and find an alternative. Sad
> I
> know, but when you've a boatload of alternatives you can use, and
> especially
> when developers can at times be difficult to reach or unresponsive, it
> just
> generally isn't worth the hassle. Thanks for the blog post though, and
> also, is there an email address you use for apple to request your
> refund? I
> always have to use the report a problem with this purchase link in my
> billing history to reach the support team.
>
> All the best, Ibrahim.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:12 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>
>
> > Hi Ibrahim,
> >
> > I've found that emailing the Apple App Store everytime and explaining
> an
> > App
> > wasn't VO Accessible gets me my cash back.
> > I also, always contact the Dev for the App and politely ask them to
> make
> > it
> > VO Accessible, giving a bit of background and pointing them to the
> Apple
> > Guidelines plus this great Dev BLOG
> > http://goo.gl/8s4C3
> >
> > The IOS Devs for the most part aren't like large Corporate affairs
> who
> > make
> > PC Apps. In some cases it's simple to make it VO Accessible as a
> patch in
> > other cases not so much, but I've found and so have others IOS Devs
> are
> > 99%
> > all to willing to help.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Barry.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52 PM
> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>
> >> Hi Jim.
> >>
> >> Well, applevis is probably the only website I really use if I'm
> looking
> >> for
> >> something specific and want to find out whether someone else has
> tested
> >> an
> >> app before, but generally speaking I'll just go and download apps
> and
> >> try
> >> them on the off chance that they'll be accessible or at least
> usable.
> >> The
> >> problem comes when you download paid for apps which aren't
> accessible,
> >> and
> >> all you can do really is grit your teeth and learn a lesson or two
> as
> >> Apple
> >> are quite reluctant to give refunds unless there is a very good
> >> reasoning
> >> behind your request. This is from personal experience and in no way
> >> reflects on the staff working at the online stores service desk, but
> it
> >> all
> >> depends on who you get and how sympathetic they are to you. I've
> come
> >> across some really snotty individuals who will either question you
> on
> >> the
> >> specific reason you want a refund and insist on testing the app for
> >> themselves, either that or turn down a refund request outright. In
> >> contrast
> >> though, there are some really good staff whom are a pleasure to deal
> >> with
> >> and who are only too happy to help.
> >>
> >> All the best and good luck on your app search.
> >>
> >> Take care, Ibrahim.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "jim" <j_doherty2@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 10:22 AM
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi Ibrahim,
> >> >
> >> > It would be very useful to know what apps are accessible and which
> >> are
> >> > not. I wonder if someone could put up a list of accessible tried
> and
> >> > tested ones for blind and visually impaired people, other than
> >> applevis.
> >> >
> >> > Jim
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:55 AM
> >> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Jim.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm an IPhone user, if there's any app you want me to test out
> and
> >> its
> >> >> free I'll be happy to give it a go, time permitting of course. I
> >> use
> >> >> lots of apps for lots of different things, so I've a good list of
> >> apps I
> >> >> use and can recommend.
> >> >>
> >> >> All the best, Ibrahim.
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "jim" <j_doherty2@xxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:12 PM
> >> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> recommend
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi Jackie,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I hope you keep these tried and tested out apps coming to the
> list,
> >> I
> >> >>> got tune radio after reading your email and its fantastic.
> Thanks
> >> and
> >> >>> keep testing them out for us ipod touch users its appreciated.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Jim
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:39 PM
> >> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> recommend
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Hi David
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I went into the App Store on my iPod Touch, then went to
> >> categories. I
> >> >>>> got
> >> >>>> the English Dictionary and Thesaurus, World Fact Book 2011, and
> >> Birds
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>> Britain under the reference section. I bought Quick News UK
> under
> >> the
> >> >>>> news
> >> >>>> section, and I think I bought Tune In under the music category.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I was having a look at an app I could possibly try to get that
> >> would be
> >> >>>> like
> >> >>>> Teletext, and came across one for 59p which gives Ceefax and
> some
> >> >>>> foreign
> >> >>>> services. But they aren't compatible with VoiceOver, so I've
> had
> >> to
> >> >>>> call
> >> >>>> that one a day I reckon. I have also downloaded a free TV
> Guide
> >> which
> >> >>>> seems
> >> >>>> to be reasonably accessible, but I'm still fathoming out how it
> >> works
> >> >>>> properly.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Kind Regards,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Jackie Cairns
> >> >>>> J&M Work-Ability
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> >> >>>> Behalf Of
> >> >>>> David
> >> >>>> Sent: 22 January 2011 09:55
> >> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> recommend
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi Jackie,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Can you tell me where you got you apps from. I have tried
> itunes
> >> and
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> apple shop, but I must be doing the wrong thing as I come up
> with
> >> >>>> nothing.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> David Weston.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> >> >>>> Behalf Of
> >> >>>> Jackie Cairns
> >> >>>> Sent: 21 January 2011 08:45
> >> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> recommend
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Yes, I don't think the prices differ greatly. Living in a
> >> village,
> >> >>>> going
> >> >>>> online is best for us, so it's as well to be the Apple store as
> >> >>>> anywhere
> >> >>>> else, and their delivery service is very quick. I believe John
> >> Lewis
> >> >>>> sell
> >> >>>> the Apple range, and everything with them carries a two-year
> >> guarantee,
> >> >>>> so
> >> >>>> maybe that's worth considering. They will also give you hands-
> on
> >> like
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> Apple store in all probability. I note with Argos that
> anything
> >> with
> >> >>>> storage capacity doesn't carry a 30-day money back guarantee,
> so
> >> if you
> >> >>>> buy
> >> >>>> and don't like, you would need a hard and fast reason for
> >> returning it
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> them.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Kind Regards,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Jackie Cairns
> >> >>>> J&M Work-Ability
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> >> >>>> Behalf Of
> >> >>>> David
> >> >>>> Sent: 21 January 2011 08:36
> >> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> recommend
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi Carol,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The price is very much the same where ever you buy the ipod.
> Thou
> >> >>>> before
> >> >>>> Christmas Argos was selling the ipod touch 32 gb for £20 less
> that
> >> the
> >> >>>> Apple
> >> >>>> store.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> David Weston.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> >> >>>> Behalf Of
> >> >>>> Carol Pearson
> >> >>>> Sent: 20 January 2011 17:06
> >> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> recommend
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> OK, I do understand that Brian but don't know exactly where
> >> they're
> >> >>>> sold and
> >> >>>> was surprised to learn about Argos.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Is there much difference in price as you look around and any
> way
> >> of
> >> >>>> finding
> >> >>>> the prices from these different stores, please?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Carol P
> >> >>>> ---- Original Message ----
> >> >>>> From: "the williams family" <therefuge@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:32 AM
> >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> recommend
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> hi carol
> >> >>>>> remember apple products are also sold by other retailers.
> >> >>>>> We got our ipod touches from argos.
> >> >>>>> brian
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:30 PM
> >> >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> recommend
> >> >>>>>> Jackie,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I'm getting more and more hooked. Just can't quite decide
> >> whether to
> >> >>>>>> go for phone or the Ipod Touch. Strangely enough, we are also
> >> looking
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>> at Bose systems right now and I'm thinking of Bose speakers
> for
> >> my
> >> >>>>>> computer system which is away from the main stereo.
> >> >>>>>> Anyway, I now fully understand the difference between these
> two
> >> so
> >> >>>>>> shall be looking, though am disappointed as we don't have an
> >> Apple
> >> >>>>>> store very near at all.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>> Carol P
> >> >>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
> >> >>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:31 AM
> >> >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> recommend
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Hi Carol
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> With the iPod Touch, as long as you put your broadband
> security
> >> key
> >> >>>>>>> in, you will be able to treat it like a PC online, where you
> >> can
> >> >>>>>>> download material and browse the Internet. What you can't
> >> obviously
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>> do is make calls etc, because the phone part is not
> included.
> >> But,
> >> >>>>>>> as I've said several times, the phone isn't the bit I want
> as I
> >> am
> >> >>>>>>> happy with the handsets and Talks I use. I just love the
> iPod
> >> Touch
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>> for the applications it can work with. At the moment, for
> >> example,
> >> >>>>>>> I have put my device through a set of Bose speakers, and am
> >> >>>>>>> listening to Five Live Sports Extra so I can hear the
> tennis.
> >> >>>>>>> Quality is very
> >> >>>> good
> >> >>>>>>> and no drop-out or stuttering.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Kind Regards,
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
> >> >>>>>>> J&M Work-Ability
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
> >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-
> uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On
> >> >>>>>>> Behalf Of Carol Pearson
> >> >>>>>>> Sent: 18 January 2011 15:47
> >> >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> >>>>>>> recommend
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Jackie,
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I never realised you could do so much with the Ipod Touch.
> I
> >> hadn't
> >> >>>>>>> thought about it going online, though I should, knowing that
> >> Apples
> >> >>>>>>> stuff works with ITunes, and I certainly hadn't thought
> about
> >> it
> >> >>>>>>> being able to run these other apps.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Very interesting, for sure!
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> So, does anyone know if all apps work across the board on
> their
> >> >>>>>>> equipment? Just interested in how things work.
> >> >>>>>>> ...
> >> >>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>> Carol P
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
> >> >>>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns"
> >> >>>>>>> <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-
> >> uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:21 AM
> >> >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >> recommend
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> My Apple keyboard arrived yesterday, and pairing it with my
> >> iPod
> >> >>>>>>>> Touch was extremely straightforward. So I decided to visit
> >> the App
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Store and, for 59p each, I bought four applications that
> work
> >> with
> >> >>>>>>>> VoiceOver. They are the World Fact Book 2011, a dictionary
> and
> >> >>>>>>>> thesaurus, Tune In Radio and, probably my favourite, Birds
> of
> >> >>>>>>>> Britain. The latter is an amazing little program if you
> love
> >> bird
> >> >>>>>>>> sound and details. Not only can you play the song, but you
> >> can
> >> >>>>>>>> listen to VoiceOver provide a description of their size,
> >> colour,
> >> >>>>>>>> family, time of year etc. There is also a favourites
> button
> >> to use
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> where you can add a library of your favourite birds to it.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Tune In Radio is great. Similarly, there is a bookmark
> >> facility
> >> >>>>>>>> where you can make a list of the stations you wish to add.
> >> Because
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I love tennis, and the Australian Open is on at the moment,
> I
> >> have
> >> >>>>>>>> great difficulty getting it on DAB as we have such a
> >> diabolical
> >> >>>>>>>> signal in these parts. So when I tuned in using the Sonata
> at
> >> 8.00
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> this morning, a message said that restricted rights
> prevented
> >> >>>>>>>> coverage. I find this often happens at weekends when
> football
> >> >>>>>>>> matches are in progress too.
> >> >>>>>>>> So I tuned my iPod to Sports Extra and, low and behold, got
> >> the
> >> >>>>>>>> tennis on live.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> All the above apps work with VoiceOver. I don't use my
> >> keyboard
> >> >>>>>>>> for everything, mainly when I get into tricky areas that
> need
> >> a bit
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> of typing. Mostly, I use my fingers and have got used to
> doing
> >> so
> >> >>>>>>>> now.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Just thought I'd pass on the info.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
> >> >>>>>>>> J&M Work-Ability
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
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