[access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
- From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:16:49 -0000
I've had responses from them.
Cheers
Dave
Hi Barry.
Wow, you actually get a reply from that email address? Whenever I've sent
questions or comments to the accessibility team, they've disappeared in to the
ether and I've never actually got a response from them.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:32 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
> Hi Ibrahim,
>
> I've just used
> accessibility@xxxxxxxxx
>
> Cheers,
> Barry.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:28 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>
>> Hi Barry.
>>
>> Ah well, that settles it then *smile*. If there's an app I really want
>> to
>> use, I'll ask the developer to try and make it more accessible, but
>> more
>> often than not, I just shrug my shoulders and find an alternative. Sad
>> I
>> know, but when you've a boatload of alternatives you can use, and
>> especially
>> when developers can at times be difficult to reach or unresponsive, it
>> just
>> generally isn't worth the hassle. Thanks for the blog post though, and
>> also, is there an email address you use for apple to request your
>> refund? I
>> always have to use the report a problem with this purchase link in my
>> billing history to reach the support team.
>>
>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:12 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>
>>
>> > Hi Ibrahim,
>> >
>> > I've found that emailing the Apple App Store everytime and explaining
>> an
>> > App
>> > wasn't VO Accessible gets me my cash back.
>> > I also, always contact the Dev for the App and politely ask them to
>> make
>> > it
>> > VO Accessible, giving a bit of background and pointing them to the
>> Apple
>> > Guidelines plus this great Dev BLOG
>> > http://goo.gl/8s4C3
>> >
>> > The IOS Devs for the most part aren't like large Corporate affairs
>> who
>> > make
>> > PC Apps. In some cases it's simple to make it VO Accessible as a
>> patch in
>> > other cases not so much, but I've found and so have others IOS Devs
>> are
>> > 99%
>> > all to willing to help.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Barry.
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> >> Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52 PM
>> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> recommend
>> >>
>> >> Hi Jim.
>> >>
>> >> Well, applevis is probably the only website I really use if I'm
>> looking
>> >> for
>> >> something specific and want to find out whether someone else has
>> tested
>> >> an
>> >> app before, but generally speaking I'll just go and download apps
>> and
>> >> try
>> >> them on the off chance that they'll be accessible or at least
>> usable.
>> >> The
>> >> problem comes when you download paid for apps which aren't
>> accessible,
>> >> and
>> >> all you can do really is grit your teeth and learn a lesson or two
>> as
>> >> Apple
>> >> are quite reluctant to give refunds unless there is a very good
>> >> reasoning
>> >> behind your request. This is from personal experience and in no way
>> >> reflects on the staff working at the online stores service desk, but
>> it
>> >> all
>> >> depends on who you get and how sympathetic they are to you. I've
>> come
>> >> across some really snotty individuals who will either question you
>> on
>> >> the
>> >> specific reason you want a refund and insist on testing the app for
>> >> themselves, either that or turn down a refund request outright. In
>> >> contrast
>> >> though, there are some really good staff whom are a pleasure to deal
>> >> with
>> >> and who are only too happy to help.
>> >>
>> >> All the best and good luck on your app search.
>> >>
>> >> Take care, Ibrahim.
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "jim" <j_doherty2@xxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 10:22 AM
>> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> recommend
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi Ibrahim,
>> >> >
>> >> > It would be very useful to know what apps are accessible and which
>> >> are
>> >> > not. I wonder if someone could put up a list of accessible tried
>> and
>> >> > tested ones for blind and visually impaired people, other than
>> >> applevis.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jim
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
>> >> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:55 AM
>> >> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> recommend
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Jim.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm an IPhone user, if there's any app you want me to test out
>> and
>> >> its
>> >> >> free I'll be happy to give it a go, time permitting of course. I
>> >> use
>> >> >> lots of apps for lots of different things, so I've a good list of
>> >> apps I
>> >> >> use and can recommend.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> All the best, Ibrahim.
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "jim" <j_doherty2@xxxxxxx>
>> >> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:12 PM
>> >> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> recommend
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hi Jackie,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I hope you keep these tried and tested out apps coming to the
>> list,
>> >> I
>> >> >>> got tune radio after reading your email and its fantastic.
>> Thanks
>> >> and
>> >> >>> keep testing them out for us ipod touch users its appreciated.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Jim
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:39 PM
>> >> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> recommend
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Hi David
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I went into the App Store on my iPod Touch, then went to
>> >> categories. I
>> >> >>>> got
>> >> >>>> the English Dictionary and Thesaurus, World Fact Book 2011, and
>> >> Birds
>> >> >>>> of
>> >> >>>> Britain under the reference section. I bought Quick News UK
>> under
>> >> the
>> >> >>>> news
>> >> >>>> section, and I think I bought Tune In under the music category.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I was having a look at an app I could possibly try to get that
>> >> would be
>> >> >>>> like
>> >> >>>> Teletext, and came across one for 59p which gives Ceefax and
>> some
>> >> >>>> foreign
>> >> >>>> services. But they aren't compatible with VoiceOver, so I've
>> had
>> >> to
>> >> >>>> call
>> >> >>>> that one a day I reckon. I have also downloaded a free TV
>> Guide
>> >> which
>> >> >>>> seems
>> >> >>>> to be reasonably accessible, but I'm still fathoming out how it
>> >> works
>> >> >>>> properly.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Kind Regards,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Jackie Cairns
>> >> >>>> J&M Work-Ability
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On
>> >> >>>> Behalf Of
>> >> >>>> David
>> >> >>>> Sent: 22 January 2011 09:55
>> >> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> recommend
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi Jackie,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Can you tell me where you got you apps from. I have tried
>> itunes
>> >> and
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> apple shop, but I must be doing the wrong thing as I come up
>> with
>> >> >>>> nothing.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> David Weston.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On
>> >> >>>> Behalf Of
>> >> >>>> Jackie Cairns
>> >> >>>> Sent: 21 January 2011 08:45
>> >> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> recommend
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Yes, I don't think the prices differ greatly. Living in a
>> >> village,
>> >> >>>> going
>> >> >>>> online is best for us, so it's as well to be the Apple store as
>> >> >>>> anywhere
>> >> >>>> else, and their delivery service is very quick. I believe John
>> >> Lewis
>> >> >>>> sell
>> >> >>>> the Apple range, and everything with them carries a two-year
>> >> guarantee,
>> >> >>>> so
>> >> >>>> maybe that's worth considering. They will also give you hands-
>> on
>> >> like
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> Apple store in all probability. I note with Argos that
>> anything
>> >> with
>> >> >>>> storage capacity doesn't carry a 30-day money back guarantee,
>> so
>> >> if you
>> >> >>>> buy
>> >> >>>> and don't like, you would need a hard and fast reason for
>> >> returning it
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> them.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Kind Regards,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Jackie Cairns
>> >> >>>> J&M Work-Ability
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On
>> >> >>>> Behalf Of
>> >> >>>> David
>> >> >>>> Sent: 21 January 2011 08:36
>> >> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> recommend
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi Carol,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> The price is very much the same where ever you buy the ipod.
>> Thou
>> >> >>>> before
>> >> >>>> Christmas Argos was selling the ipod touch 32 gb for £20 less
>> that
>> >> the
>> >> >>>> Apple
>> >> >>>> store.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> David Weston.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On
>> >> >>>> Behalf Of
>> >> >>>> Carol Pearson
>> >> >>>> Sent: 20 January 2011 17:06
>> >> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> recommend
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> OK, I do understand that Brian but don't know exactly where
>> >> they're
>> >> >>>> sold and
>> >> >>>> was surprised to learn about Argos.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Is there much difference in price as you look around and any
>> way
>> >> of
>> >> >>>> finding
>> >> >>>> the prices from these different stores, please?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> Carol P
>> >> >>>> ---- Original Message ----
>> >> >>>> From: "the williams family" <therefuge@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:32 AM
>> >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> recommend
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> hi carol
>> >> >>>>> remember apple products are also sold by other retailers.
>> >> >>>>> We got our ipod touches from argos.
>> >> >>>>> brian
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>>>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:30 PM
>> >> >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> recommend
>> >> >>>>>> Jackie,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I'm getting more and more hooked. Just can't quite decide
>> >> whether to
>> >> >>>>>> go for phone or the Ipod Touch. Strangely enough, we are also
>> >> looking
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>> at Bose systems right now and I'm thinking of Bose speakers
>> for
>> >> my
>> >> >>>>>> computer system which is away from the main stereo.
>> >> >>>>>> Anyway, I now fully understand the difference between these
>> two
>> >> so
>> >> >>>>>> shall be looking, though am disappointed as we don't have an
>> >> Apple
>> >> >>>>>> store very near at all.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> --
>> >> >>>>>> Carol P
>> >> >>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
>> >> >>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:31 AM
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> recommend
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Hi Carol
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> With the iPod Touch, as long as you put your broadband
>> security
>> >> key
>> >> >>>>>>> in, you will be able to treat it like a PC online, where you
>> >> can
>> >> >>>>>>> download material and browse the Internet. What you can't
>> >> obviously
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> do is make calls etc, because the phone part is not
>> included.
>> >> But,
>> >> >>>>>>> as I've said several times, the phone isn't the bit I want
>> as I
>> >> am
>> >> >>>>>>> happy with the handsets and Talks I use. I just love the
>> iPod
>> >> Touch
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> for the applications it can work with. At the moment, for
>> >> example,
>> >> >>>>>>> I have put my device through a set of Bose speakers, and am
>> >> >>>>>>> listening to Five Live Sports Extra so I can hear the
>> tennis.
>> >> >>>>>>> Quality is very
>> >> >>>> good
>> >> >>>>>>> and no drop-out or stuttering.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>> >> >>>>>>> J&M Work-Ability
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>> >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-
>> uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> >> On
>> >> >>>>>>> Behalf Of Carol Pearson
>> >> >>>>>>> Sent: 18 January 2011 15:47
>> >> >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> >>>>>>> recommend
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Jackie,
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I never realised you could do so much with the Ipod Touch.
>> I
>> >> hadn't
>> >> >>>>>>> thought about it going online, though I should, knowing that
>> >> Apples
>> >> >>>>>>> stuff works with ITunes, and I certainly hadn't thought
>> about
>> >> it
>> >> >>>>>>> being able to run these other apps.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Very interesting, for sure!
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> So, does anyone know if all apps work across the board on
>> their
>> >> >>>>>>> equipment? Just interested in how things work.
>> >> >>>>>>> ...
>> >> >>>>>>> --
>> >> >>>>>>> Carol P
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
>> >> >>>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns"
>> >> >>>>>>> <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-
>> >> uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:21 AM
>> >> >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>> >> recommend
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> My Apple keyboard arrived yesterday, and pairing it with my
>> >> iPod
>> >> >>>>>>>> Touch was extremely straightforward. So I decided to visit
>> >> the App
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Store and, for 59p each, I bought four applications that
>> work
>> >> with
>> >> >>>>>>>> VoiceOver. They are the World Fact Book 2011, a dictionary
>> and
>> >> >>>>>>>> thesaurus, Tune In Radio and, probably my favourite, Birds
>> of
>> >> >>>>>>>> Britain. The latter is an amazing little program if you
>> love
>> >> bird
>> >> >>>>>>>> sound and details. Not only can you play the song, but you
>> >> can
>> >> >>>>>>>> listen to VoiceOver provide a description of their size,
>> >> colour,
>> >> >>>>>>>> family, time of year etc. There is also a favourites
>> button
>> >> to use
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> where you can add a library of your favourite birds to it.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Tune In Radio is great. Similarly, there is a bookmark
>> >> facility
>> >> >>>>>>>> where you can make a list of the stations you wish to add.
>> >> Because
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> I love tennis, and the Australian Open is on at the moment,
>> I
>> >> have
>> >> >>>>>>>> great difficulty getting it on DAB as we have such a
>> >> diabolical
>> >> >>>>>>>> signal in these parts. So when I tuned in using the Sonata
>> at
>> >> 8.00
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> this morning, a message said that restricted rights
>> prevented
>> >> >>>>>>>> coverage. I find this often happens at weekends when
>> football
>> >> >>>>>>>> matches are in progress too.
>> >> >>>>>>>> So I tuned my iPod to Sports Extra and, low and behold, got
>> >> the
>> >> >>>>>>>> tennis on live.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> All the above apps work with VoiceOver. I don't use my
>> >> keyboard
>> >> >>>>>>>> for everything, mainly when I get into tricky areas that
>> need
>> >> a bit
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> of typing. Mostly, I use my fingers and have got used to
>> doing
>> >> so
>> >> >>>>>>>> now.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Just thought I'd pass on the info.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>> >> >>>>>>>> J&M Work-Ability
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>>>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
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