Try doing the same with MySpace. The complete opposite is what you get. There's nothing like being completely ignored to put you off a website. Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:01 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Facebook - how to make it more accessible I'll tell you about a similar story. I'm a massive fan of now defunct Atomic Kitten, but I like their solo members, so I signed up to one of their forums. Now, because they use visual verification during registration, I e-mailed them explaining that I was blind and that I couldn't see the visual verification, and within hours they've set up my access to the forum! Couldn't believe that such a site would even give a thought about accessibility as it's about a pop group! Just my two pence worth. On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:13:56 +0100, "Vanja Sudar" <vanja@xxxxxxxxxxx> said: > This goes even further. I'm very impressed with facebook! I emailed them > baisicly telling them that I have difficulties signing up because I'm > blind and am unable to see their visual veryfication and asked if they > could help. Less than 5 hours after my email they set up my account for > me! I wish all website/companies were so responsive. I'm definitely very > impressed! > Vanja > http://www.sudar.co.uk > MSN messenger: sudar23@xxxxxxxxxxx > AIM: vanja121 > Skype: vanja121 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Damon > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:24 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Facebook - how to make it more accessible > > > Hi! > > Bit of progress here. > > I was banging on about facebook.com the other week. It's the big social > networking site that everyone is talking and writing about. It's good > in order to network, keep in touch with friends and business > acquaintances. You can also find like-minded people there and all > sorts. It seems that if you're not on facebook, you're not a proper > human being if you are to believe The Guardian. > > The main barrier to using it is the verification graphic that you need > to copy into a box at registration. Once beyond this point, you can use > many of the features but some features have a further verification > graphic that you need to get past in order to be able to add contacts, > do email etc. > > I can now report, however, that after an email to the support team, > they have taken away verification graphics for my account. What this > now means is that I can use all of facebook's services. But at this > stage it still means you need to be able to read verification graphics > at the point of registration. Luckily though it's a once only thing now > and they are working on an audio captcha idea. > > In order to get the graphics removed, go to the bottom of the page, > click on help and find the help section about problems with > registration. Get past all the FAQ stuff, you're looking for a form to > fill in and send to the team. Within about 24 hours your internal > verification graphics will be gone for good. > > I've started a really informal chat with one of the people there who is > enthusiastic about accessibility too. She tells me she is now in > contact with a few jaws users and they are really keen to move their > product on. > > They have recently made their Gift Shop accessible. It works well. > > Go and give it a go. I urge you. Since being on facebook I have > collected up around 21 friends and almost on a daily basis I am getting > people who know me or have known me suddnly seeing I'm there and adding > me to their friends list. I realise that talking about it in the > abstract is just that, rather abstract, so go and give it a go. It > would be awesome to create a blind network on there. And then offshoots > can come out of, or feed into, that network and it could be really > positive and interesting. > > And we can also help them hone the look and feel of their page, which > isn't too bad usability wise, but the point is they are listening and > keen to improve. Great news from a site with real egalitarian ambition. > > ...Damon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > skype: damonrose > > London, England. 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