[access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options

There was a quota for the numbers of disabled people employed in a company
before the DDA was enacted I think. 

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Eleanor Burke
Sent: 04 November 2010 16:46
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options

I agree with you again Derek but not talking about the company you mention,
in general, I believe the sad situation is that there has to be a ruling
authority about employing a number of disabled people in the workplace,
otherwise such people are left on the back burner.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:29 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options


> But there was  discussion  about taking ona blind person, Why?
>
> Nobody should be taken on because blind.
> So what's the  problem?
>
> Are you  trying to say that  Sight & Sound reject Those that are 
> blind!
>
> I am saying  it   doesn't matter if staff are sighted or not.
>
> Regards,  Derek
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Paul Leake
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:50 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
>
> derek nobody is recommending taking a blind person on if they don't 
> have the
>
> ability to do the job, what a silly suggestion you make! who needs 
> enemies with you as a friend?
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:34 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
>
>
>> Hi  Jackie
>> Surely  it would  be bad management  if one was to take on A member 
>> of staff  on the basis blind.
>>
>> Staff should never be taken on  based on disability,  it should 
>> Always be based on  ability  to do the  job, And also  is there need  
>> for the extra job?
>> Clearly  in the case of  Sight & Sound,  they must feel they Have  
>> enough staff  now.
>> Regards,  Derek
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:31 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
>>
>> As you know Paul, I gave S and S every assistance I could to 
>> advertise and recruit a blind person with good Braille skills to 
>> become part of the company before I left.  Sadly, however, nothing 
>> was done about it, I moved away, and thankfully we all appear to be 
>> happy with the paths we have taken.
>> (smile).
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>> J&M Work-Ability
>>
>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Paul Leake
>> Sent: 03 November 2010 22:28
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
>>
>> i think it is a great pity that a company the size of sight and sound 
>> chooses not to employ fulltime a blind person in such a role! this 
>> calls into question your commitment to employing blind people in my 
>> view! very poor indeed!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Glenn Tookey" <Glenn.Tookey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:16 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] FW: Re: Braille display options
>>
>>
>>> Actually we do have a blind person to demonstrate, train and support 
>>> our customer base. We have Jonathan Tyrer, who works UK wide for us 
>>> in this role. He is not a full time employee, but he works for us on 
>>> a day to day basis and has been successful. He has a very wide 
>>> experience base - not just Freedom products, but all software and 
>>> hardware and also more recently Apple solutions.
>>>
>>> This for me is what we are all about, looking after our customer 
>>> base, so if you would like to learn more about the Focus 40 Blue 
>>> just contact us and we will do our best to help.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>> Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>>> Sent: 02 November 2010 10:02
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options
>>>
>>> They don't have a blind person like myself to go out and demo, train 
>>> and support their Braille products as it currently stands and, in my 
>>> honest experience, there is nobody like a Braillist to really 
>>> demonstrate what a display or other similar hardware can do.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>> J&M Work-Ability
>>>
>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>> Sent: 02 November 2010 09:49
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options
>>>
>>> Ask Sight & Sound Catherine.  Sight & Sound are aware that it does 
>>> not work with the N97 Mini as I told them.  Also informed Freedom 
>>> Scientific.
>>> Maybe
>>> it has to do with N97 Mini being a 5th generation phone but it works 
>>> well with the other phones.  Don't Sight & Sound have a service, 
>>> well they did when Jackie worked there, where someone would come out 
>>> and show you a Braille display, in that case, the person could try 
>>> it with our phone and then you would know before purchasing it.  
>>> There is a really nice man at Freedom Scientific who uses the Focus 
>>> Blue all the time with his phone.
>>> I
>>> wrote to him too re the drivers but whether they do anything about 
>>> it or not is anyone's guess.  While I was disappointed, I have to 
>>> say of course that the Focus Blue is excellent in conjunction with 
>>> PC also.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:24 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ah.  Did you ask the manufacturer about this?  Is there a particular
>>>> reason why it doesn't work with the n97 mini?  Is there any way of
>>>> knowing before purchase whether it would work or not.  I will have to
>>>> ask Sight And Sound about it, but presumably if it didn't work I could
>>>> return it for a refund.
>>>>
>>>> Catherine
>>>>
>>>> On 11/3/10, Eleanor Burke <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> you want to ensure that it will work as I got the Focus Blue and it
>>>>> does not work with the N97 Mini but iT works with my other phones.
>>>>> -original message-
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Braille display options
>>>>> From: Catherine Turner <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: 02/11/2010 7:37 am
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> My BrailleNote PK died recently and I decided it wasn't worth the
>>>>> price to fix it, it needing a new memory board.  So I am tentatively
>>>>> looking at braille display options.  I need either to be able to
>>>>> write notes on the braille display, or for the display to work with
>>>>> my Nokia
>>>>> E5 mobile phone running Talks.  Having used an 18 cell display for
>>>>> some time now I know I would not want to go below that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I right in thinking that the Focus 40 blue, at £1995 from Sight
>>>>> And Sound, would be the cheapest option?
>>>>>
>>>>> Catherine
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