[access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services

  • From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:28:36 +0100

yes but government won't fund a UK Bookshare.  And a Bookshare is only a
half hearted nod towards our needs anyway.  Plus the publishers will still
get no money out of us.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:19 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services


> I think the copywrite laws allow outfits such as bookshare and the various
> library services for the blind to reproduce their books for lending.  This
> is why we are permitted to scan these books as well.  Probably not all
> publishers permit this, which is why I think the selection is limeted.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:03 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services
>
>
> > Andrew ... if the publishers can't be bothered to make commercial
versions
> > of the books available to us in accessible formats, then they're not
going
> > to get any profit from us.  It's their own fault. They'd rather
> characterise
> > us as a problem than come up with an accessible solution it seems.
> >
> > I'd dearly love to be able to buy books from my favourite authors and
have
> > them benefit as a result of my purchase ... and hence encourage them to
> > write more books.
> >
> > Until businesses stop seeing disabled peple as a problem and start
seeing
> us
> > as a market, and as important, then the ethics of what we're doing to
gain
> > access to books is something of a side issue.  We can only conclude they
> are
> > happy with the status quo and are perfectly happy to tolerate what we're
> > doing and they'd rather not have our money.
> >
> > I find it bizarre.
> >
> > ...Damon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 5:53 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Ethics of book sharing services
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Ok, recent discussion has prompted me to post these questions which I
> > wouldn't have necessairly posted, but had thought about when hearing of
> > Bookshare et al.
> >
> > With Bookshare, you pay a flat fee each year to subscribe to the
> > service, which according to interviews with representatives from
> > Bookshare etc, they describe it as like a Napster service, but the books
> > are all on the Bookshare servers.
> >
> > However, with this set-up, does the original author of the
> > book/publisher etc get anything back?  How do the publishers let these
> > books go onto the site, being that they may not see any of the money?
> > Furthermore, baring in mind book sales etc, when we download a book from
> > Bookshare or another similar service, this does not go to the tally of
> > the author, and so the books we read aren't added to the sales figures.
> > Yes, this last bit is a bit weak, because sighted people pass books
> > around etc.  However, I am just wondering what actually happens?
> >
> > Discuss.
> > Andrew.
> >
> >
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