[access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?

  • From: "Paul Leake" <paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:17:24 +0100

sadly, you're absolutely right jackie, they don't know how to value customer loyalty and think they can ignore it and hide behind their perceived power and size in the marketplace. hopefully with greater competition things will change for the better to dissemble their monopoly! p 


Cheers

Paul

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:55 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?



My big issue with them is that they don't appear to care about customers.
They invest thousands of dollars at the expense of visually impaired people in taking out law suits against the opposition, and they come over as being completely paranoid about their licensing policies. There is no doubt that 
those of us who have invested so much time and money in JAWS need that
software to enhance our independence.  But I don't like the FS ethos and
apparent gravy train, and I do believe that alternatives such as Voiceover
for the Mac, NVDA, Window-Eyes and System Access are beginning to thankfully 
make an impact.

Whether there is any truth in the persistent rumours about Freedom will
always be nothing but rumour until anything substantive materialises.


Kind Regards,

J


Jackie Cairns
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Barry G
Sent: 06 June 2010 11:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?
I must say too, a number of people are switching to the competition because Freedom seems to be focussing on things like research-it that does what you can do perfectly easily using a search engine on the web whilst appearing to 
have left simple things like support in Windows 7 for word-processor and
email to one side.  It seems to me like frills over basic functionality,
which looks to me to be taking your eyes off the ball big time...

All the best from a continuing JFW user regardless but in hope, Barry G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 3:36 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?



Yes JAWS does need to be updated regularly to keep up, but as so many
people are having to cover the cost of the upgrades out of their own
pocket there is a likelyhood many of them won't be able to afford to
upgrade each time. How often do we ear of users using versions much lower
than the current version. I am guessing that government departments will
probably be the biggest purchaser of JAWS and most of them won't upgrade
unless they really need to due to the limits on government spending at the 


moment in most countries.

I've always felt that lowering the price significantly for JAWS would in
fact bring in much more revenue for Freedom Scientific because so many
people are switching to the rapidly improving competition at a fraction of 


the cost.

Peter

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From: "Neil" <temp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:37 AM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?


Hi all

Some points: Well really one main point, where did the information come
from?
This isnt referenced anywhere in the statement and I cant find anything
on the web.

Surely Freedoms hardware business would be more likely to be sold as it
cannot be anywhere near as profitable due to the vast amount of
competition in that area.
Supposing that this does turn out to be true I am sure that a buyer would 


be found easily. Is Jaws not the most used screen reader worldwide?
Jaws needs constant updates to keep up with the rapidly moving technology
that is computer software and so a constant revenue stream already exists 


making it a viable business long term.
Undoubtedly there are huge costs envolved in developing the software for
the same reason but as the financial situation has been going on for
around 2 years now would we have seen features like Tandem and Research
It if profitability was becoming a concern?

At this point I think that without more specific and robust information
we should not be concerned.

Neil



From: "Otto Zamora"<donttreadonme@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400

Morning,

In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference Freedom
Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw.
Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on a flag by 


an
analyst.
Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising given
the
economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell off some of their 
division, mainly their JFW area.
I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering that
there
is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only $700.
Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get the
package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully accessible
web
sites, word processing, and E mail.
all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as individual
program.
ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool
indeed
for the kind of money they are asking for.
Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling computers 
already with speech on board right out of the box and off the shelf.
Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that might
very
well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program.
Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of JFW,
will
only work for a short while until the programs controlling the OS,
begins to
outgrow the application.
In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to me,
was
the learning curve, which for the new package being sold by Mr.. Mike
Calvo,
is very short.
The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want
without
real loss.


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