[access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?

  • From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:01:21 +0100

I've got to agree.  with each subsequent version, There's more and more in 
Jaws that I don't use.

Cheers

Barry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barry G" <lister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?


I must say too, a number of people are switching to the competition because
Freedom seems to be focussing on things like research-it that does what you
can do perfectly easily using a search engine on the web whilst appearing to
have left simple things like support in Windows 7 for word-processor and
email to one side.  It seems to me like frills over basic functionality,
which looks to me to be taking your eyes off the ball big time...

All the best from a continuing JFW user regardless but in hope,
Barry G
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 3:36 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?


> Yes JAWS does need to be updated regularly to keep up, but as so many
> people are having to cover the cost of the upgrades out of their own
> pocket there is a likelyhood many of them won't be able to afford to
> upgrade each time. How often do we ear of users using versions much lower
> than the current version. I am guessing that government departments will
> probably be the biggest purchaser of JAWS and most of them won't upgrade
> unless they really need to due to the limits on government spending at the
> moment in most countries.
>
> I've always felt that lowering the price significantly for JAWS would in
> fact bring in much more revenue for Freedom Scientific because so many
> people are switching to the rapidly improving competition at a fraction of
> the cost.
>
> Peter
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Neil" <temp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:37 AM
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Some points: Well really one main point, where did the information come
>> from?
>> This isnt referenced anywhere in the statement and I cant find anything
>> on the web.
>>
>> Surely Freedoms hardware business would be more likely to be sold as it
>> cannot be anywhere near as profitable due to the vast amount of
>> competition in that area.
>>
>> Supposing that this does turn out to be true I am sure that a buyer would
>> be found easily. Is Jaws not the most used screen reader worldwide?
>> Jaws needs constant updates to keep up with the rapidly moving technology
>> that is computer software and so a constant revenue stream already exists
>> making it a viable business long term.
>> Undoubtedly there are huge costs envolved in developing the software for
>> the same reason but as the financial situation has been going on for
>> around 2 years now would we have seen features like Tandem and Research
>> It if profitability was becoming a concern?
>>
>> At this point I think that without more specific and robust information
>> we should not be concerned.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>> From: "Otto Zamora"<donttreadonme@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400
>>>
>>> Morning,
>>>
>>> In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference Freedom
>>> Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw.
>>> Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on  a flag by
>>> an
>>> analyst.
>>> Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising given
>>> the
>>> economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell off some of their
>>> division, mainly their JFW area.
>>> I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering that
>>> there
>>> is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only $700.
>>> Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get the
>>> package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully accessible
>>> web
>>> sites, word processing, and E mail.
>>> all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as individual
>>> program.
>>> ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool
>>> indeed
>>> for the kind of money they are asking for.
>>> Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling computers
>>> already with speech on board right out of the box and off the shelf.
>>> Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that might
>>> very
>>> well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program.
>>> Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of JFW,
>>> will
>>> only work for a short while until the programs controlling the OS,
>>> begins to
>>> outgrow the application.
>>> In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to me,
>>> was
>>> the learning curve, which for the new package being sold by Mr.. Mike
>>> Calvo,
>>> is very short.
>>> The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want
>>> without
>>> real loss.
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