Andy, The controls on the Muvo 4GB are exactly the same as the Stone, just smaller. There is also a button for bass boost. The Muvo has the USB plug built into the unit rather than a cable as the stone has. This means the unit is about as long as your index finger, about the same width as the index finger but only half as thick. I would guess it would be the same size as two sticks of chewing gum placed on top of each other. Sound quality is as good as any others I have used, and I have a stone 1GB as well. The speed of file transfer up to the Muvo is vastly faster than the stone, which is a great improvement. The only problem I have found is I cannot get it to play for more than 30 minutes without it locking up and not being seen by the pc. I am still trying to get to the bottom of this problem, but it's happened with two of them now. Hth, Mark Threadgold The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidity of your act... -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 19 May 2008 20:40 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Creative Muvo T100 MP3 player advice Hi guys. I've got both the 1 and 2 Gb Zen stones and love them. I was thinking of getting the 4 gb Creative Muvo T100 machines, but have not seen much regarding it on any of the lists. Can you tell me a little about it please. For example, is it like the 1 and 2 Zen stone device in the sense that it has no screen? Is it about the same size, and can you purchase a wrist-band for it? Very best wishes. Andy. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 19/05/2008 07:44 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq