[access-uk] Re: Complaint Letter?

  • From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:07:53 +0100

Hi Billy

If your wife or a friend is sighted it may be the easiest way to find out if they are a member of CIU would be to look on the outside of the building as normally there is a sign to say they are.

Alternatively if it's a Miner's Union club would a word to the Union giving full details put the wheels in motion?

Roger

Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.


----- Original Message ----- From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <billy72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:57 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Complaint Letter?


George, never thought about that one, thanks, I'll have a look, Billy
----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:48 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Complaint Letter?


Hi Billy,

Have you checked to see if they are members of the CIU
(Working Mens Club & Institutes Union)? http://wmciu.org.uk/


Many of these clubs are, and it could be worth having a word
with someone there on an "off the record basis" to see what
they might suggest?

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gordon Keen
Sent: 17 September 2007 12:34
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Complaint Letter?

O.K. Billy, what I think you need to do is find out if there
is a Law Centre
in your area, these are run on sort of pro bono terms and
may not charge you
for advice or a letter.
Ask your local library is they have or can get you a contact
address and
telephone number if one exists.
A good thing would be to get your witnesses to make notes
and get all your
membership docs together  so you have somewhere the Law
Centre has to start
from.

I really think you are going to need help with this.

Regards
Gordon
From glorious Devon, England -----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
TrueBlue & Proud
Sent: 17 September 2007 11:09
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Complaint Letter?

Gordon, this is really kind of you to try and help.
Have you any Idea, how I could find out these kind of things
about the club.

I think the guy in question is just a committee member, he
usually sits at the door and gives out tickets.
The club is a Miners Welfare, think it would be a private
club.
I pay a yearly sub, to be a club member.

I have been in touch with the CAB this very morning, but the
only advice, they could offer, is to either contact the police, write a
letter of complaint, or go visit a lawyer.
As I have mentioned. I don't want to take this to the
police, or a lawyer, where it will cost an arm and a leg, just to get them to
compose a letter of

complaint.

I must admit, I was disapointed in the responce from CAB.

Don't really know, where next,
Billy
If you have witnesses, get them to put in writing exactly
what they saw
and
heard.
Try and find out what the status of the individual is in
the organisation,
is he or she the licensee and would thus have the right to
bar access to
the
premises.
The club is most likely a private members club but does it
have charity
status if so you could ask advice from the charity
commission.

In order to have any official remove from a committee it
is usual to hold
an
extraordinary general meeting and you must discover what
the rules cover
calling such a meeting are.

It will not be a quick fix, if fix it is.



Regards
Gordon
From glorious Devon, England
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
TrueBlue & Proud
Sent: 17 September 2007 10:21
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Complaint Letter?

Gordon,
as i have mentioned in another message. We don't want to
go down the legal
road, but we agree, that the person in question shouldn't
be allowed to
get
away scot free.
In my opinion, he should be removed from his committee
position, but I'm
not

sure how this can happen.
He informed my wife and me, that we were barred from the
club, so I don't
know else we can do.

We were told by another committee member to write a letter
of complaint to
the club secatary, and the letter would be delt with by
the full
committee,
but I'm not really sure it would be,
Billy




access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 9:32 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Complaint Letter?


Equally, in the case of assault, the incident should be
reported to the
police and a crime number obtained.

Be extremely cautious as to what you put in writing until
you have some
advice either from C.A.B. or as Roger suggests from a
trained lawyer.
Very upsetting but do not react to any provocation or
seek to confront
the
individual as this might lead to you being accused of a
breach of the
peace.

Keep a cool head.
Regards
Gordon
From glorious Devon, England

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
roger south
Sent: 17 September 2007 08:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Complaint Letter?

Hi Billy

Have you considered one of the "No-win No-fee"
solicitors? If it was
verbal
and physical assault it may well be you have a case
against them.

Roger

Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.


----- Original Message ----- From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <billy72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:50 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Complaint Letter?


hi guys,
I have to write a letter of complaint to my local Miners
Welfare Social
Club Committee. The complaint is regarding a verbal &
actual assault on
my

wife Anne by one of the clubs committee members.

Could someone in the group please provide some good
URL'S where I can
get
some advice on writing such a letter of complaint, I
don't really know
where to begin with this.
Any kind of help would be really helpful.

Hope I'm not going too far off topic with this one, if I
am, then I
apoligise in advance, but as you can imagine, we are
still in shock
after
Saturday night,

Billy

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