** File was empty ** Didn't Kurzweil kick off this sort of mobile OCR with the K-NFB reader? Cheers Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaMcAs" <lamcas17@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: [access-uk] Camera Imaging Devices was RE: Re: kurzweil 1000 Hi List Well this could become very interesting. As Open Book are now about to sell the Pearl it probably means that Kurzweil will probably do the same sort of thing. So could it now be a case of the VI industry using cameras to take images is it not likely that the "normal" folks, like Nuance and Abby etc. might try and use the same technology as it is obviously much faster and more accurate? I always say "never buy the first of anything" because doubtless, like the iPhone 4, there are always problems with the first one and specifications become better after all the bugs have been found. I was impressed when I saw the Pearl at Sight Village in Birmingham, but thought as per usual "these guys are taking us for a ride" a camera doesn't cost £700 as you can buy a decent 12mb camera for around a £100. The camera on the Pearl is only 5mp and images are at 200 dpi which is lower than most items are scanned And mobile phones have been made with a 8 MP camera (the N86) which you can buy for around £350 and put BeyoCBS on to it for £70. Ok the application for BeyoCBS and Pearl are completely difference, though the Pearl can be used anywhere even on a netbook you don't really want to get your netbook out at a station and such cut cameras cost around the same sort of price, I suspect this is the VI price exaggerations that make us pay so much money. Ok these are just my thoughts and wondered if anyone thinks the way I am thinking too? HTH Larry & Elliot GD (Guide Dog) -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 21 July 2010 20:18 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: kurzweil 1000 why has a pearl like device not been made for k1000 though then i'd consider it On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:59 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Hi all, > I plan to get Kurzweil 1000 as soon as I have a compatible scanner. This is so I can read my own posts. I tried OpenBook but Kurzweil beats it by miles. Version 9 of OpenBook will be interesting though and I plan to install and run it in its 40 minute mode. > Just my £0.02 worth. > > > > Signed by Chris Hallsworth > E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx > Skype: chrishallsworth7266 > Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 > > On 21/07/2010 9:20, David Russell wrote: >> Will, >> >> I am a Kw user and know nothing of Openbook. I would recommend Kurzweil for >> ease of use, and it has rarely caused me problems. One point worthy of >> consideration is that with KW you can upgrade from an old version to the >> latest one, without paying for any versions you may have missed. I do not >> know whether this is the same with Openbook. Also, the KW license allows >> you to use it on any machine, as long as you are the sole user. >> >> It is probably also worth considering that Openbook will soon be paired with >> the new Pearl camera technology if that is what you wish to use. >> >> I am just putting these points forward as things you might wish to consider. >> I do not have many answers, but am just posing a few questions which others >> may wish to comment on. >> >> >> David >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf >> Of Jackie Cairns >> Sent: 21 July 2010 09:00 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: kurzweil 1000 >> >> >> Hi Will >> >> To me, personally, they are much of a muchness in terms of features. Open >> Book supports Braille without needing to have JAWS running in the >> background, whereas K1000 doesn't. K1000 isn't copy protected in the way >> that Open Book version 9 will be either, but it costs £100 more at the >> moment. >> >> I use both of them. What I can't get out of one, I generally can with the >> other. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> J&M Work-Ability >> >> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> www.work-ability.co.uk >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >> william lomas >> Sent: 21 July 2010 07:46 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] kurzweil 1000 >> >> hi all, how does k1000 compare to openbook? >> It seems that k1000 has a lot more online based and daisy features or does >> openbook have all this as well? >> Will >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3016 - Release Date: 07/19/10 >> 19:36:00 >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >> database 5296 (20100720) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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