[access-uk] Re: CHILDREN OF BESLAN - BBC 2 DOCUMENTARY 9 PM 30/08/2005

  • From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:08:17 +0100

Can I urge anyone who was annoyed by this to make a complaint via the
BBC complaints website www.bbc.co.uk/complaints 

You are guaranteed a response within 10 days. 

The more people who do it, the more likelyhood a result.

BBC execs believe that adding voiceovers interupts the artistic
integrity of the programme. 

...Damon 



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: 31 August 2005 11:54
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: CHILDREN OF BESLAN - BBC 2 DOCUMENTARY 9 PM
30/08/2005


Thanks, Barry.  I'll keep it and pass on in due course - when I hear
back from them, or within a few weeks if I don't.


--
Carol
carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx 



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Barry
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:55 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: CHILDREN OF BESLAN - BBC 2 DOCUMENTARY 9 PM
30/08/2005


Not giving a verbal translation does not only alienate the VI, it would
also 
have put off many others.  My parent's, who have no sight problems, are
not 
fast readers so turned the TV over when they saw the sub-titled 
translations.  I listened to a programme about Beslan  on the World
Service 
a couple of months ago.  They were interviewing the teachers.  The
teacher 
started talking in Russian and, after a few seconds, an English
translation 
was given over the top.  If the BBC can do it on Radio, surely they can
do 
it on TV too.


Is *Points of view* still running on the BBC?  It is obviously too late
for 
this programme, but they need to sort this out for future viewing, 
particularly for something as emotive as Beslan.



Barry H



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MARTIN WILSHER" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:10 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: CHILDREN OF BESLAN - BBC 2 DOCUMENTARY 9 PM 
30/08/2005


Neither should you regret it carol.  I'm 1000000000 percent behind you
on this one.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: CHILDREN OF BESLAN - BBC 2 DOCUMENTARY 9 PM
30/08/2005


> Hi there,
>
> Well said!  (Why did I fire this up again???)  I have no regrets!
>
>
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of MARTIN WILSHER
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:18 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: CHILDREN OF BESLAN - BBC 2 DOCUMENTARY 9 PM 
> 30/08/2005
>
>
> HI Carol:
>
> It seems to me that this lack of audio description is symtomatic of a
> general disregard for the needs of visually impaired people who watch 
> television.  I spoke to sky about this not too long ago, and even 
> they, with their massive resources, seemed to put more into subtitling

> for the deaf
>
> than AD for the blind.  They even told me that there listings for
> subtitled programmes, but none for AD programmes, and further more, 
> that there was an
> easy way to turn on subtitles by pressing one or two buttons, wheras
the
> AD
> was almost impossible for a blind person to switch on or off.  I know 
> this is the bbc we are talking about here, and I think it is 
> deplorable
there
> was
> no AD or verbal translation.  thumbs down for the bbc.
> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "'Ian Macrae'" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:21 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] CHILDREN OF BESLAN - BBC 2 DOCUMENTARY 9 PM 
> 30/08/2005
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We have just been very saddened and disgusted to discover that the
>> documentary currently showing on BBC 2, "Children of Beslan", is 
>> obviously in their native language (Russian) and there is no audio 
>> description or verbal translation.  On calling the BBC Information 
>> and
>
>> Complaints line I was informed that there is a text translation on
>> the
>
>> screen but of course, that is no good to us!
>>
>> I was particularly angry that, as this was a very sad and moving
>> event
>
>> last year, we have been unable to follow up the children's progress.
>>
>> Ian, I do hope you're reading this!  I feel very strongly that the
>> BBC
>
>> have let us down again.
>>
>> When I called, I asked for a transcript of the programme, or at least

>> the verbal translation which was given.  Are we likely to receive
>> this?
>>
>> Over to "In Touch"!
>>
>> Any other comments anyone?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carol
>> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
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