[access-uk] Re: Broken TTS in XP
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:26:01 +0100
Hi Carol,
No it is not just us. I have a very good sighted friend who is very up on
computers, and he says that Windows absolutely needs a reinstall after a
year, to keep it ticking at any sensible pace, and I tend to agree with him.
It is a hassle, but if you keep your data on a separate drive or partition,
move my documents for example, you can easily reinstall, if you have all
your software to hand.
I have an unattended install, but my friend Chris, the same chap we are
talking of, created it for me.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Carol Pearson
Sent: Wednesday 15 October 2008 15:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Broken TTS in XP
Hi Steve,
I usually go about a year, or a bit longer, but this past install may have
gone two years and is now pretty ropey! I just need some sight to go
through it all over again and don't fancy that one.
Do you think sighted people go through the same saga of install, or do you
think it's mainly because we use speech software and/or can't always shut
down properly, or crash for no other reason that we can find, apart from the
speech maybe? Just interested on your thoughts here.
--
Carol
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Steve Nutt wrote:
> Hi Doris,
>
> I tend to reinstall Windows at least once a yhear, as I find I get
> better performance out of it. It becomes kind of like swimming
> through treacle if you don't, even with the best repair utils in the
> world. But that's just personal preference on my part, but I don't
> believe a Windows install stays good for much more than a year.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chris & Doris
> Sent: Tuesday 14 October 2008 23:11
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Broken TTS in XP
>
> Hi, Steve,
>
> Reinstalling widnows just to fix a sapi error is a bit extreme in my
> book. ii used to reformat and reinstall all the time when I had sight
> still. I know how to do an unintended install but have not done it. I
> have been running on the same install of windows for the past 2 1/2
> years here and I try to keep my system in top shape as much as I can.
>
> tonight I finally fixed that speech applet error message by
> reinstalling the speech component of Microsoft office xp that I have
> on my system and all is well. ,g>
>
> I like to tinker around a lot and play with voices and such and
> every once in a while something breaks. ,g>
>
> thanks for the feedback to you and everyone on here. It's cool to be
> part of this community.
>
> god Bless,
>
> Doris At 07:20 PM 10/14/2008 +0100, you wrote:
>> Hi Doris,
>>
>> If that were me, I would reinstall Windows by now <Smile>.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Chris & Doris
>> Sent: Tuesday 14 October 2008 14:38
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Broken TTS in XP
>>
>> Hi, Barry, hi, listers!
>>
>> I have a bit of good news on this one at last.
>>
>> This morning I tried accessing the Microsoft hotfix request page for
>> this fix in Firefox rather than in Internet Explorer and I tried
>> using the Webvision plugin capture solving gizmo on the visual
>> verification and it worked! It told me it had submitted it and then a
>> couple three seconds later I was told the resolved capture had been
>> added to my clipboard and was ready to paste into the appropriate
>> edit box. It was so smooth! This was the first time this capture
>> resolving thing had actually worked for me but I was thrilled!,g>
>>
>> I then received the hotfix by email in a password protected
>> self-extracting archive that needs to be downloaded and extracted
>> within a week after requesting it. I did this and tried to apply the
>> hotfix only to be told that there was no need for me to install the
>> hotfix as my service pack (sp3) was newer than the fix. so I still
>> have the problem but at least was able to request thehotfix all by
>> myself. ,g>
>>
>> I'll fiddle around with this some more and report back with you guys
>> if I do get the problem fixed.
>>
>> I had deleted all those user lexicon files and stuff befoer btw.
>>
>> Thanks much and God Bless,
>>
>> Doris
>>
>> At 11:30 AM 10/14/2008 +0100, you wrote:
>>> Hi Doris,
>>>
>>> Yeah I got hit with that CAPTCHA as well. The Irony that it was on
>>> a hot fix for TTS corruption was not lost on me and a few choice
>>> words where throan about the office. hahaha
>>>
>>> I hope you can get this sorted, I also saw and tryed the deleting of
>>> the files in
>>>
>>> C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Local Settings\Application
>>> Data\Microsoft\Speech\Files\MSASR
>>>
>>> Which did nothing. The only thing that did work was the reinstall
>>> for me.
>>>
>>> Dj Paddy
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Doris"
>>> <chipmunks@xxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:41 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Broken TTS in XP
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,Steve,
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I know and I have instructions I saved on how to do this
>>>> including deletion of corrupted files. However, it has not done the
>>>> trick this time on my box. Maybe I have to have a look-see in the
>>>> registry and see what I can monkey around with in there. I had to
>>>> delete some ghost voices manually out of their sometime back.
>>>>
>>>> There actually is a Microsoft Hotfix for this problem but it is one
>>>> that is mailed out on request only and I only got asfar as the
>>>> visual verification page for it. I do not know if the hotfix was
>>>> included in sp3 or not.
>>>>
>>>> thanks much.
>>>>
>>>> Doris
>>>>
>>>> At 08:25 AM 10/14/2008 +0100, you wrote:
>>>>> Hi Doris,
>>>>>
>>>>> Strainge. I have seen this fixed many times with a reinstall.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Chris & Doris
>>>>> Sent: Monday 13 October 2008 06:22
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Broken TTS in XP
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I actualy had tried that befoer with a few extra steps that
>>>>> actually deleted the potentially corrupted files befoer
>>>>> reinstalling sapi 5 but i still get this error mesage:
>>>>>
>>>>> begin quote
>>>>>
>>>>> Speech Properties
>>>>> The requested task cannot be carried out because the necessary
>>>>> engine could not be created. Please select a
>>>>> different engine and/or a different audio device.
>>>>> OK
>>>>>
>>>>> end quote
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks much and God Bless,
>>>>>
>>>>> Doris
>>>>>
>>>>> At 07:43 PM 10/12/2008 +0100, you wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Doris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you install the sapi5.inf as I outlined, you should cure your
>>>>>> speech recognition error too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On Behalf >Of
>>>>>> Chris & Doris
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday 12 October 2008 18:51
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Broken TTS in XP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ssapi that comes with win xp is sapi 5.1 and not sapi 4.
>>>>>> Sapi 4 came with win 2k.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll send you a asapi repair tool off list that you can try. If
>>>>>> that doesn't work, you can try to reinstall sapi 5 from your xp
>>>>>> cd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am also having the speech recognition engine error and have not
>>>>>> been able to fix that yet but that should not impact your being
>>>>>> able to change the default tts voice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm intersted to see wwhat solutions people come up with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> doris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 05:40 PM 10/12/2008 +0100, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a new one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't change the default TTS Engine under control
>>>>>>> panel/speech.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can preview the voices but when I hit apply it comes up
>>>>> with, > >"RUNDLL
>>>>>>> An exception occurred while trying to run
>>>>>>> "C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL "C:\Program
>>>>>>> Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Speech\sapi.cpl",Speech"
>>>>>>> OK "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I downloaded and ran SAPI4's suite from,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.o2a.com/SpeechDownload.htm>http://www.o2a.com/SpeechD
>>>>>> ownload.ht m
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and it installed, "Microsoft Speech SDK 4.0 and engines
>>>>>>> Microsoft Voice, Microsoft Dictation, and the Microsoft Speech
>>>>>>> SDKOK "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Convinced this would fix it.... It did not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Furthermore when I launch the Speech Applet I get,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Speech Properties
>>>>>>> The requested task cannot be carried out because the necessary
>>>>>>> engine could not be created. Please select a
>>>>>>> different engine and/or a different audio device.
>>>>>>> OK "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've SP3 on the machine but had these problems with SP2 as
>>>>>>> well. I was actually hoping there would be a Hot Fix in SP3
>>>>>>> that would have > >fixed it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dj Paddy
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