Hi Joan, If you go to BAUK's Publications page, http://www.bauk.org.uk/pubs/htm you will be able to download a copy of the latest version of British Braille in both PDF and braille formats. It's well worth keeping a copy to hand for such questions. Rule 7.2.11 on page 77 explains the new commercial "at" @ sign introduced fairly recently. There is also a summary of changes available, where it says, and I quote: "15. A new sign for the commercial "at" symbol, dot 4 dots 2-3-4-6 has been added to the literary code (7.2.11). This allows simple email addresses to be transcribed directly without the need to resort to the computer code method (see point 7); nevertheless, BAUK recommends that the method using computer code indicators be the norm in most transcription circumstances as it provides a single method which is of general application. " And "Point 7" says: "7. The use of computer code indicators is included in British Braille (section 5.3), and a short list of computer code signs is included in 2.7. These are taken from the Braille Computer Notation. The main use is expected to be for the transcription of email and internet addresses, which will no longer require explanatory notes or ad hoc methods. However, as pointed out in 5.3.1, the use of this facility is not restricted to this area, and may be used wherever the greater precision in representing arbitrary sequences of characters without ambiguity is needed in a literary context. One difference from the Braille Computer Notation is that the default is for letters to be lower case (the opposite convention is currently used in Braille Computer Notation). This is now thought to be the more natural default position." Hope this helps, George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Angela Bartram Sent: 17 January 2007 11:00 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille sign help! I don't feel quite so stupid now for not being able to find out! In one braille primer is says do4 + "the" sign and on the braille authority computer language page it says just "the" sign for @. =20 Well my colleague has decided to put dot 4 + the, but explain to the recipient in case aren't sure what it is (many of them are not computer users, but we are doing some transcription and need to put everything in). =20 Thanks all for your comments and suggestions anyway! Joan Muir <wjmuir.twadugs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: The "the" sign only is used. No dot 4 at all. Best wishes, Joan. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Christopher Hallsworth"=20 To:=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille sign help! > No, the "the" sign does not come after the dot 4 sign; it's just dot 4. > On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:53:55 +0000 (GMT), "Angela Bartram" > said: >> I think I've found it - dot 4 plus "the" sign- is that right? >> Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Dot 4. >> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:30:26 +0000 (GMT), "Angela Bartram" >> said: >> > Can someone please tell me what the braille sign for the "at" sign @=20 >> > is? >> > It should be obvious, but I'm not a braille reader and my knowledge is=20 >> > a >> > bit rudimentary. Would appreciate a quick reply if someone can help- a >> > colleague is putting a letter into braille and needs to include an=20 >> > email >> > address. 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