[access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?

Hi,
Personally, I do not really like grade2 Braille as most of it is in
contraction form which I feel doesn't help individuals to grasp basic
skills, Spelling, etc.
Thanks, Paul

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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =
Of
Angel
Sent: 29 April 2007 12:33
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?


We are talking apples and oranges here, as Louis Braille was French and =
the=20
contractions commonly used in English Braille are accent marks in that=20
language.  Everyone knows contractions make reading Braille much =
speedier=20
and save space.  I would be happy if there were even more of these and =
we=20
used grade three as a matter of course.  But that will never happen, =
only in

my dreams.
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From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:55 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?


> Hi Christine,
>
> I am a proficient Braillist.  I just don't like Grade two, because=20
> there
> is
> so much disagreement about it.  Louis Braille never invented Grade =
two, he
> merely invented Braille.
>
> All the best
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=20
> Behalf
> Of
> Christine Weetman
> Sent: 28 April 2007 16:37
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>
> Hi Angel, No No No, Not dot five and c in My name, dot five and c for=20
> Christ, but not in Christmas either! lol  Don't ask me why, I was just =

> taught it that way, so I didn't question it.  I am a Braille User and=20
> Proud of it so I don't accept what Steve said (below) braille was=20
> invented for the
> benefit of us who Need to use it, so maybe He doesn't and is luckier =
than
> us, but I am Full of admiration for those who use braille Correctly =
and
> Don't shout about their ignorance!
>
> All the best, Christine W,.----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angel" <Angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:27 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>
>
> I hadn't thought of that about the Christ sign, though if that word
> appears
> in another faith's religious context couldn't the sign be used?  I =
think
> what I meant is it is not faith specific.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:05 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>
>
>> Hi Angel,
>>
>> I don't think all of them encompass all faiths, for example Christ is =

>> definitely Christian.  For my part, I am glad they are gone.  We are=20
>> the only country that used them in terms of Braille, so it didn't=20
>> make any sense.  Mind you, I hate Grade 2 anyway, it is so ambiguous, =

>> and gives people writing translation software a big headache.
>>
>> All the best
>> --
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>> the long cane for blind computer users.
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>> International:  +44(0)1438 742286,
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>> Web site:  http://www.comproom.co.uk
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=20
>> Behalf Of Angel
>> Sent: 28 April 2007 06:49
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>>
>> I always wondered whatever happened to those signs.  I didn't know=20
>> they had been scrapped.  As they encompass all faiths I don't think=20
>> they ought to have been.
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <"Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@freelists.org>
>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:42 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Braille readers, did you know?
>>
>>
>>> Hi all, I have just heard of some Important braille signs which I=20
>>> always used have been scrapped, What Is this world coming to?  They=20
>>> are all religious signs we can't use, has this been done so as "Not=20
>>> to Offend" the
>>
>>> non-Christians?  I doube for a mark of respect, what do you think?=20
>>> Did you
>>
>>> know and would you still use them in your personal writings? The=20
>>> nine religious contractions which should never have been scrapped
>>> are:
>>>
>>> 1.   Dot five C for Christ.
>>> 2.   F T H sign for faith.
>>> 3.   G L for glory.
>>> 4.   Dot five G for God.
>>> 5.   G R for grace.
>>> 6.   H L for holy.
>>> 7.   Dot five J for Jesus.
>>> 8.   S T H sign for saith.
>>> 9.   Dots four-five-six u for unto.
>>>
>>> So what are we going to reuse these signs for now?
>>>
>>> Yours, disgusted, Christine W.
>>>
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