[access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone

Hi Barry,

1.  Do you have the latest BC firmware installed?

2.  Do you have the latest transfer tool installed?

If the answer to both these questions is no, then go to the bottom of the
class <Smile>.  However, if the answer is yes, then you are trying to
transfer the RNIB files wrongly.  Instead of browsing for the files, you
must go to the Daisy menu in the transfer tool, shortcut is Alt-D, and View
Local Library.  You will then be presented with the books by title on your
RNIB CD, and can hit Ctrl-T to transfer, and then the procedure is the same
as other files.

Hope this helps.

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barry G
Sent: 24 April 2006 17:35
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone

I see that the BC is supposed to cope with DAISY files and have, before
today, never tried to use this feature.  Out of interest, I tried to
transfer an RNIB talking book CD to my BC but it only seemed to want to take
the files as MP3.  I see the filter seems to want DAISY2, does anyone know
if Talking Books are using DAISY1 or DAISY2?  Maybe that's my problem, Are
any other UK BC users using it for RNIB talking books?

Barry G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Martin" <p.martin13@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone


> HI James,
> Most interesting,  I am attracted to this unit as I won't need to take my 
> Victor Reader with me when I am away from home.  Do you know typical 
> battery life for the BC.  Also can it be used to record a committee 
> meeting where everyone is within about 6 feet of unit, no high quality 
> required just intelligible.  I know it does not have a separate mike 
> input.
>
> Hope you can help.
> Regards
> Philip
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:21 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone
>
>
>> Hi Roger
>>
>> I'm a Book Courier user and have no practical experience of the 
>> Milestone. I'm sure Steve or Ian will pick me up on anything I've missed,

>> but here are some
>> ideas.
>>
>> Advantages of Book Courier:
>>
>> 1.  The prices of the book Courier and the Milestone are quite close 
>> (£180
>> for a Milestone, £225 for a book Courier or £200 if you have a registered
>> copy of Kurzweil 1000 version 7 or higher and order from techno-vision or
>> Computer Room Services).  I think TNAUK also have a deal with 
>> techno-vision
>> where you can get a BC for £200 if you currently have a subscription to
>> their digital service, since there is a special filter which allows you 
>> to transfer TNAUK digital files onto the Book Courier.
>>
>> 2.  Book Courier already supports the Daisy format for audio, and does it
>> very well too, giving you access to all of the book's navigation features
>> easily and quickly, without having to wait for a CD to spin up, as you 
>> would
>> in a CD-based player.  Some of the portable players really seem to 
>> struggle
>> with complex Daisy titles, and some producers are having to issue 
>> warnings
>> to the effect that their material cannot be successfully played on such
>> players.  meanwhile, the Milestone is promising Daisy support, but 
>> obviously
>> there is a degree of risk involved in buying a milestone before this 
>> support actually
>> arrives, as you don't really know what you're buying :) and whether they 
>> will keep the development up when they have implemented it.
>>
>> 3.  Book Courier supports files from audible (.com and .co.uk), which is 
>> the
>> world's biggest and best provider of downloadable audio books, and which 
>> can
>> save you a fair bit of cash.
>>
>> 4.  Book Courier comes with twice the storage capacity of the milestone
>> (256mb compact flash card), and I think compact flash might be cheaper 
>> than
>> SD in general.
>>
>> 5.  The Big one: Book Courier includes its own built-in text-to-speech
>> synthesiser (Doubletalk), which can read text documents you transfer onto
>> the unit and also speaks all prompts and system information.  This means 
>> you
>> don't have to listen to such information at the speed of the pre-recorded
>> prompts on the milestone.  I also believe that filters for file formats 
>> such
>> as word documents and html files are on the way at some point in the 
>> future.
>>
>> As you can tell, I like my book courier, but there are a few 
>> disadvantages
>> compared to the milestone:
>>
>> 1.  The milestone is smaller.
>>
>> 2.  Book courier is not directly rechargeable.  You can use rechargeable
>> batteries in the BC, but you would have to purchase a separate charger 
>> and
>> charge your batteries outside of the unit.  Springer Design, who make the

>> BC, say you will get better results with non-rechargeables, but I have 
>> just started using rechargeables and have had no problems so far.
>>
>> 3.  If you want to do serious voice-recording, the Milestone might be a 
>> better option, since I think it saves its voice recordings in mp3, rather

>> than wave.  Book Courier does have a built-in microphone, but creates 
>> wave files, which will take up more room on the card.
>>
>> 4.  There is an issue with listening to music on the BC, in that a 
>> mistake was made in the development phase meaning that the stereo 
>> channels are reversed (you hear the left channel in the right ear and the

>> right channel in the left ear).
>>
>> 5.  Generally, you are expected to use the Book Courier transfer software

>> to transfer material to Book Courier, whereas the Milestone doesn't 
>> require this as far as I know.  you can transfer mp3 files to BC using 
>> Windows explorer, but not audible, text, TNAUK or daisy files.  This 
>> would be a disadvantage if you were planning to use a computer on which 
>> you are unable to install the software to transfer files.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> James
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "roger.south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:43 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Book Courier v Milestone
>>
>>
>>> On another list I'm on several people have shown great interest in the
>>> Milestone. I posted saying that the feeling on this list is the BC is 
>>> the
>>> better buy and has more features. I'm now being asked if someone on this
>>> list would put a few points together to give reasons as to why that 
>>> belief
>>> is held.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> Man is the only animal that blushes, or needs to.
>>> Mark Twain
>>>
>>>
>>>
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