[access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone

  • From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:00:30 +0100

Hi Barry

The Book Port allows you to increase the speed of audio and Daisy files on the pC, with pitch compensation, before you transfer them. However, the big disadvantage to this is that you can't revert back to normal speed or increase it further, you are "stuck", as it were, with the speed you set when you transfered it. Can't comment on anything else to do with Bookport except to say that I went for the Book Courier because of its support for TNAUK and KES files and because it seems to be more aimed at the uk market than the BP, which might help to avoid potential compatibility issues with UK content providers in future.

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:12 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone



Hi Barry,

No, unfortunately, there is not.

All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barry G
Sent: 24 April 2006 21:51
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone


Hi Steve and James, you were both spot on! Very impressive! Just one more
question, is there any way of speeding up playback - standard speed does my
head in as it is so painfully slo...


Again, many thanks to you both,
Barry G

----- Original Message -----
From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone


Hi Barry

You need to insert your Daisy CD and then press the "Daisy" button in the
transfer Tool Main Window, or the "View Local Library" option from the
Daisy menu. This will cause a list of titles found on the disk (usually
the one book that is on there) to appear in the list view in the main
window, then you just press "Transfer". If you get an error when you
choose "View Local Library", select "Specify Library Location" from the
Daisy menu and make sure that the path indicated there is pointing to your

CDRom drive.

Hope it works for you, you won't be disappointed.

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry G" <lister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 5:35 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone



I see that the BC is supposed to cope with DAISY files and have, before
today, never tried to use this feature. Out of interest, I tried to
transfer an RNIB talking book CD to my BC but it only seemed to want to
take the files as MP3. I see the filter seems to want DAISY2, does anyone

know if Talking Books are using DAISY1 or DAISY2?  Maybe that's my
problem, Are any other UK BC users using it for RNIB talking books?

Barry G
----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Martin" <p.martin13@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone



HI James,
Most interesting,  I am attracted to this unit as I won't need to take
my Victor Reader with me when I am away from home.  Do you know typical
battery life for the BC.  Also can it be used to record a committee
meeting where everyone is within about 6 feet of unit, no high quality
required just intelligible.  I know it does not have a separate mike
input.

Hope you can help.
Regards
Philip
----- Original Message ----- From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone



Hi Roger

I'm a Book Courier user and have no practical experience of the
Milestone. I'm sure Steve or Ian will pick me up on anything I've
missed, but here are some
ideas.

Advantages of Book Courier:

1. The prices of the book Courier and the Milestone are quite close
(£180
for a Milestone, £225 for a book Courier or £200 if you have a
registered
copy of Kurzweil 1000 version 7 or higher and order from techno-vision
or
Computer Room Services). I think TNAUK also have a deal with
techno-vision
where you can get a BC for £200 if you currently have a subscription to
their digital service, since there is a special filter which allows you

to transfer TNAUK digital files onto the Book Courier.

2. Book Courier already supports the Daisy format for audio, and does
it
very well too, giving you access to all of the book's navigation
features
easily and quickly, without having to wait for a CD to spin up, as you
would
in a CD-based player. Some of the portable players really seem to
struggle
with complex Daisy titles, and some producers are having to issue
warnings
to the effect that their material cannot be successfully played on such
players. meanwhile, the Milestone is promising Daisy support, but
obviously
there is a degree of risk involved in buying a milestone before this
support actually
arrives, as you don't really know what you're buying :) and whether
they will keep the development up when they have implemented it.


3.  Book Courier supports files from audible (.com and .co.uk), which
is the
world's biggest and best provider of downloadable audio books, and
which can
save you a fair bit of cash.

4. Book Courier comes with twice the storage capacity of the milestone
(256mb compact flash card), and I think compact flash might be cheaper
than
SD in general.


5. The Big one: Book Courier includes its own built-in text-to-speech
synthesiser (Doubletalk), which can read text documents you transfer
onto
the unit and also speaks all prompts and system information. This
means you
don't have to listen to such information at the speed of the
pre-recorded
prompts on the milestone. I also believe that filters for file formats

such
as word documents and html files are on the way at some point in the
future.

As you can tell, I like my book courier, but there are a few
disadvantages
compared to the milestone:

1.  The milestone is smaller.

2.  Book courier is not directly rechargeable.  You can use
rechargeable
batteries in the BC, but you would have to purchase a separate charger
and
charge your batteries outside of the unit.  Springer Design, who make
the BC, say you will get better results with non-rechargeables, but I
have just started using rechargeables and have had no problems so far.

3. If you want to do serious voice-recording, the Milestone might be a

better option, since I think it saves its voice recordings in mp3,
rather than wave.  Book Courier does have a built-in microphone, but
creates wave files, which will take up more room on the card.

4.  There is an issue with listening to music on the BC, in that a
mistake was made in the development phase meaning that the stereo
channels are reversed (you hear the left channel in the right ear and
the right channel in the left ear).

5. Generally, you are expected to use the Book Courier transfer
software to transfer material to Book Courier, whereas the Milestone
doesn't require this as far as I know. you can transfer mp3 files to
BC using Windows explorer, but not audible, text, TNAUK or daisy files.

This would be a disadvantage if you were planning to use a computer on
which you are unable to install the software to transfer files.

Hope this helps

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "roger.south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:43 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Book Courier v Milestone



On another list I'm on several people have shown great interest in the
Milestone. I posted saying that the feeling on this list is the BC is
the
better buy and has more features. I'm now being asked if someone on
this
list would put a few points together to give reasons as to why that
belief
is held.


Roger

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