Hi George,
That' get's the Reply of the Year so far.
Cheers,
Hi Guys,
You need to spell it correctly. It's kludge with a k.
Here's a definition from Google.
George.
kludge
In information technology, a kludge (pronounced KLOOdzh) is
an awkward or clumsy (but at least temporarily effective)
solution to a programming or hardware design or
implementation problem. According to Eric Raymond, the term
is indirectly derived from the German klug meaning clever.
Raymond considers "kludge" an incorrect spelling of kluge, a
term of the 1940s with the same general meaning and possibly
inspired by the Kluge paper feeder, a "fiendishly complex
assortment of cams, belts, and linkages...devilishly
difficult to repair...but oh, so clever!"
A kludge originates because another, more elegant or
appropriate solution is not currently possible (perhaps
because of time constraints). Hardware and software products
are sometimes the result of adding a new and basically
incompatible design to the original design rather than
redesigning the product completely. What is a kludge can be
a matter of opinion. Users often have a different opinion
than the designers, who understand the problems that had to
be overcome. To the extent that information technology
products are combinations of elements originating from a
variety of design philosophies and constraints, almost any
product is bound to contain some element of kludginess.
A kludge could be considered a type of workaround.
-----Original Message-----real solution.
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 08 August 2005 08:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Hi Barry,
A cludge to me, is a kind of work-around, rather than ausers.
All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computerTelephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438759589mobile: +44(0)7956 334938,to
Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
Sent: 07 August 2005 20:57
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Hi Steve, Cludge, never heard that one, will google it! Barry G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 8:25 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Hi Barry,
I realise you was not knocking the BC, but I just wantedpoint out that the speed control on the Bookport is acludge,users.rather than a real workable solution.
All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computerTelephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438759589beastiemobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
Sent: 07 August 2005 09:51
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Hi Steve, I wasn't knocking BC, it's an excellent weeand I wouldn't be without it - and I am not inclinedtowardsthe bookport either... I was just interested, I do liketheability to speed things up, off the shelf speed is so painfully slow! I have a Victor Vibe and use that forDAISYbooks and I guess I'll continue to use that for the timebeing.on
All the best, Barry G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Hi Barry,
No, you don't at the moment. But lest anyone says you dothe Book Port, this is not quite true either. With theBookPort, you have to set the speed of the narration on the PC
side, then transfer the file. In other words, once thefileis in the Book Port, you can't control it either. So thisisa kind of cludge, rather than a real speed control. Theonlyway that Springer could give you control in either device itself, would be to modify the hardware.users.
All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computerTelephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438759589books on BC?mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
Sent: 07 August 2005 08:18
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Hi Steve, do you get control of speed with RNIB talkinghadBarry G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Hi Barry,
Wow, you're a little behind the times <Smile>. We haveusers.Daisy for about six months.
All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computerTelephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438759589althoughmobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
Sent: 06 August 2005 17:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Hi Sharon, that's interesting, must go and try that,I'll need a bigger card! I thought that only the TNAUKfilesMatthewswere readable on BC. Barry G ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHARON BOWELL" <sharon.bowell1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Hi Mark,
RNIB talking Books can be played on the BC, using the transfer tool to transfer them across.
I do this all the time, and was one of the main reasons I bought my BC.
Sharon
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MarktheSent: Saturday,06 August 2005 16:54 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Actually I've got a feeling where the RNIB is concerned,material is in a closed format that has to be played ononeallof the devices supplied.
I received my BC yesterday, and am just digging into itBothnow. Smile. I must say so far I'm very impressed!
Cheers,
Mark
Mark Matthews Cardiff, Wales, UK E-mail:mark.matthews53@xxxxxxxxxxxx MSN/Windows Messenger:markmatthews3@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype:mmatthews1981 Webpage:http://www.qsl.net/gw0wgk
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James O'Dell
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 4:39 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
Hi Mandy
I think the main UK dealer for the Book Courier will be either Techno-vision Systems or Computer Room Services.readhave representatives on this list. As far as where you can get books is concerned, it willplain text documents using an internal speech synthesiser,
such as the texts from the various public domain archivesoutthere, like Project Gutenberg, or any books you havescannedyourself. It will not read e-books in formats such as pdf
format, or Microsoft Reader format, which are the main filetypes used for commercial ebooks. It will play mp3filesand daisy books such as those from the RNIB Talking Book Service if you have a big enough compact Flash card tocopythem onto, and you can also play any audio books you have bought from audible.com on the unit. I think that's it,I'msure George and Steve can give you more information if youneed it.and
James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mandy Palmer" <amanda.palmer@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Access-Uk@Freelists. Org" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: [access-uk] Book Courier
> Hi there, I've been reading some old messages from this list all about > the book courier. Please can someone tell me about it,where does > one get the books from that can be read on it. Are theydown> loadable, and where does one down load them from, may bestupid> questions but I'd rather find out more about it until Igoand spend > the money buying one. From whatlink:-
I've
> read and heard it seems to be worthwhile having?
>
> Mandy
>
>
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