[access-uk] Re: Book Courier

  • From: "Mike Cassidy" <mike.cassidy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:40:00 +0100

Hi George,

That' get's the Reply of the Year so far.

Cheers,

Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier



Hi Guys,

You need to spell it correctly.  It's kludge with a k.

Here's a definition from Google.

George.

kludge

In information technology, a kludge (pronounced KLOOdzh) is
an awkward or clumsy (but at least temporarily effective)
solution to a programming or hardware design or
implementation problem. According to Eric Raymond, the term
is indirectly derived from the German klug meaning clever.
Raymond considers "kludge" an incorrect spelling of kluge, a
term of the 1940s with the same general meaning and possibly
inspired by the Kluge paper feeder, a "fiendishly complex
assortment of cams, belts, and linkages...devilishly
difficult to repair...but oh, so clever!"


A kludge originates because another, more elegant or
appropriate solution is not currently possible (perhaps
because of time constraints). Hardware and software products
are sometimes the result of adding a new and basically
incompatible design to the original design rather than
redesigning the product completely. What is a kludge can be
a matter of opinion. Users often have a different opinion
than the designers, who understand the problems that had to
be overcome. To the extent that information technology
products are combinations of elements originating from a
variety of design philosophies and constraints, almost any
product is bound to contain some element of kludginess.


A kludge could be considered a type of workaround.




-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 08 August 2005 08:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier


Hi Barry,

A cludge to me, is a kind of work-around, rather than a
real solution.

All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer
users.
Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438
759589
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
Sent: 07 August 2005 20:57
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier


Hi Steve, Cludge, never heard that one, will google it!
Barry G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 8:25 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier


Hi Barry,

I realise you was not knocking the BC, but I just wanted
to
point out that the speed control on the Bookport is a
cludge,
rather than a real workable solution.

All the best
--
Computer Room Services:  the long cane for blind computer
users.
Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438
759589
mobile:  +44(0)7956 334938,
Email:  Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web site:  http://www.comproom.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
Sent: 07 August 2005 09:51
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier


Hi Steve, I wasn't knocking BC, it's an excellent wee
beastie
and I wouldn't be without it - and I am not inclined
towards
the bookport either... I was just interested, I do like
the
ability to speed things up, off the shelf speed is so painfully slow! I have a Victor Vibe and use that for
DAISY
books and I guess I'll continue to use that for the time
being.

All the best, Barry G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier


Hi Barry,

No, you don't at the moment. But lest anyone says you do
on
the Book Port, this is not quite true either. With the
Book
Port, you have to set the speed of the narration on the PC

side, then transfer the file. In other words, once the
file
is in the Book Port, you can't control it either. So this
is
a kind of cludge, rather than a real speed control. The
only
way that Springer could give you control in either device itself, would be to modify the hardware.

All the best
--
Computer Room Services:  the long cane for blind computer
users.
Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438
759589
mobile:  +44(0)7956 334938,
Email:  Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web site:  http://www.comproom.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
Sent: 07 August 2005 08:18
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier


Hi Steve, do you get control of speed with RNIB talking
books on BC?
Barry G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 10:44 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier


Hi Barry,

Wow, you're a little behind the times <Smile>. We have
had
Daisy for about six months.

All the best
--
Computer Room Services:  the long cane for blind computer
users.
Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438
759589
mobile:  +44(0)7956 334938,
Email:  Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web site:  http://www.comproom.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
Sent: 06 August 2005 17:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier


Hi Sharon, that's interesting, must go and try that,
although
I'll need a bigger card! I thought that only the TNAUK
files
were readable on BC.
Barry G
----- Original Message -----
From: "SHARON BOWELL" <sharon.bowell1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 4:58 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier


Hi Mark,

RNIB talking Books can be played on the BC, using the transfer tool to transfer them across.

I do this all the time, and was one of the main reasons I bought my BC.

Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark
Matthews
Sent: Saturday,06 August 2005 16:54
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier

Actually I've got a feeling where the RNIB is concerned,
the
material is in a closed format that has to be played on
one
of the devices supplied.

I received my BC yesterday, and am just digging into it
all
now. Smile. I must say so far I'm very impressed!

Cheers,

Mark

Mark Matthews
Cardiff, Wales, UK
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James O'Dell
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 4:39 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier



Hi Mandy

I think the main UK dealer for the Book Courier will be either Techno-vision Systems or Computer Room Services.
Both
have representatives on this list.
As far as where you can get books is concerned, it will
read
plain text documents using an internal speech synthesiser,

such as the texts from the various public domain archives
out
there, like Project Gutenberg, or any books you have
scanned
yourself. It will not read e-books in formats such as pdf

format, or Microsoft Reader format, which are the main filetypes used for commercial ebooks. It will play mp3
files
and daisy books such as those from the RNIB Talking Book Service if you have a big enough compact Flash card to
copy
them onto, and you can also play any audio books you have bought from audible.com on the unit. I think that's it,
I'm
sure George and Steve can give you more information if you
need it.

James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mandy Palmer" <amanda.palmer@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Access-Uk@Freelists. Org" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: [access-uk] Book Courier


> Hi there, I've been reading some old messages from this list all about > the book courier. Please can someone tell me about it,
and
where does > one get the books from that can be read on it. Are they
down
> loadable, and where does one down load them from, may be
stupid
> questions but I'd rather find out more about it until I
go
and spend > the money buying one. From what
I've
> read and heard it seems to be worthwhile having?
>
> Mandy
>
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