[access-uk] Re: Book Courier
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 12:21:08 +0100
Interesting bit on the meaning of 'kludge'. I reckon the BookPort kludge - if
that's what it is - is better than nothing, even if you do have to choose
beforehand how much speed increase you want.
I can think of other kludges though that may not be so easily tolerated. Maybe
I could go on to talk about particular pieces of sotware, but I won't.
Ray
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Hi Guys,
You need to spell it correctly. It's kludge with a k.
Here's a definition from Google.
George.
kludge
In information technology, a kludge (pronounced KLOOdzh) is
an awkward or clumsy (but at least temporarily effective)
solution to a programming or hardware design or
implementation problem. According to Eric Raymond, the term
is indirectly derived from the German klug meaning clever.
Raymond considers "kludge" an incorrect spelling of kluge, a
term of the 1940s with the same general meaning and possibly
inspired by the Kluge paper feeder, a "fiendishly complex
assortment of cams, belts, and linkages...devilishly
difficult to repair...but oh, so clever!"
A kludge originates because another, more elegant or
appropriate solution is not currently possible (perhaps
because of time constraints). Hardware and software products
are sometimes the result of adding a new and basically
incompatible design to the original design rather than
redesigning the product completely. What is a kludge can be
a matter of opinion. Users often have a different opinion
than the designers, who understand the problems that had to
be overcome. To the extent that information technology
products are combinations of elements originating from a
variety of design philosophies and constraints, almost any
product is bound to contain some element of kludginess.
A kludge could be considered a type of workaround.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> Sent: 08 August 2005 08:03
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
> Hi Barry,
>
> A cludge to me, is a kind of work-around, rather than a
real solution.
>
> All the best
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
> Sent: 07 August 2005 20:57
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
> Hi Steve, Cludge, never heard that one, will google it!
> Barry G
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 8:25 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
>
> Hi Barry,
>
> I realise you was not knocking the BC, but I just wanted
to
> point out that the speed control on the Bookport is a
cludge,
> rather than a real workable solution.
>
> All the best
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
> Sent: 07 August 2005 09:51
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
> Hi Steve, I wasn't knocking BC, it's an excellent wee
beastie
> and I wouldn't be without it - and I am not inclined
towards
> the bookport either... I was just interested, I do like
the
> ability to speed things up, off the shelf speed is so
> painfully slow! I have a Victor Vibe and use that for
DAISY
> books and I guess I'll continue to use that for the time
being.
>
> All the best,
> Barry G
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:38 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
>
> Hi Barry,
>
> No, you don't at the moment. But lest anyone says you do
on
> the Book Port, this is not quite true either. With the
Book
> Port, you have to set the speed of the narration on the PC
> side, then transfer the file. In other words, once the
file
> is in the Book Port, you can't control it either. So this
is
> a kind of cludge, rather than a real speed control. The
only
> way that Springer could give you control in either device
> itself, would be to modify the hardware.
>
> All the best
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
> Sent: 07 August 2005 08:18
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
> Hi Steve, do you get control of speed with RNIB talking
books on BC?
> Barry G
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 10:44 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
>
> Hi Barry,
>
> Wow, you're a little behind the times <Smile>. We have
had
> Daisy for about six months.
>
> All the best
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry G
> Sent: 06 August 2005 17:52
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
> Hi Sharon, that's interesting, must go and try that,
although
> I'll need a bigger card! I thought that only the TNAUK
files
> were readable on BC.
> Barry G
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SHARON BOWELL" <sharon.bowell1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 4:58 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> RNIB talking Books can be played on the BC, using the
> transfer tool to transfer them across.
>
> I do this all the time, and was one of the main reasons I
> bought my BC.
>
> Sharon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark
Matthews
> Sent: Saturday,06 August 2005 16:54
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
> Actually I've got a feeling where the RNIB is concerned,
the
> material is in a closed format that has to be played on
one
> of the devices supplied.
>
> I received my BC yesterday, and am just digging into it
all
> now. Smile. I must say so far I'm very impressed!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> Mark Matthews
> Cardiff, Wales, UK
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James O'Dell
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 4:39 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier
>
>
> Hi Mandy
>
> I think the main UK dealer for the Book Courier will be
> either Techno-vision Systems or Computer Room Services.
Both
> have representatives on this list.
> As far as where you can get books is concerned, it will
read
> plain text documents using an internal speech synthesiser,
> such as the texts from the various public domain archives
out
> there, like Project Gutenberg, or any books you have
scanned
> yourself. It will not read e-books in formats such as pdf
> format, or Microsoft Reader format, which are the main
> filetypes used for commercial ebooks. It will play mp3
files
> and daisy books such as those from the RNIB Talking Book
> Service if you have a big enough compact Flash card to
copy
> them onto, and you can also play any audio books you have
> bought from audible.com on the unit. I think that's it,
I'm
> sure George and Steve can give you more information if you
need it.
>
> James
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mandy Palmer" <amanda.palmer@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Access-Uk@Freelists. Org" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 4:11 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Book Courier
>
>
> > Hi there, I've been reading some old messages from this
> list all about
> > the book courier. Please can someone tell me about it,
and
> where does
> > one get the books from that can be read on it. Are they
down
> > loadable, and where does one down load them from, may be
stupid
> > questions but I'd rather find out more about it until I
go
> and spend
> > the money buying one. From what
> I've
> > read and heard it seems to be worthwhile having?
> >
> > Mandy
> >
> >
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