Derek, You've just spent the past several days arguing that the banks will make reasonable adjustment by continuing to provide fraud cover for those people unable to use the security devices. By your own argument, people unable to use those devices, be it from one disability or all, are met with reasonable adjustment. So please, have it one way or the other, but either way, please don't start an argument for argument's sake. Regards, Léonie. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Derek Hornby Sent: 25 May 2007 20:32 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Barclays got it right! Re internet banking security Léonie said to Amro, "I'd definitely recommend dropping Barclays a line. As much as it's important to highlight the obstacles, it's also important to encourage the solutions. I'm with you on the rant though." Why? If a company *only* addresses the needs of the sighted that is viewed as discrimination! So is it not also just as wrong if the company *only* addresses the needs of the sighted, and the blind, visually impaired. Do you consider the Deafblind don't count? Note that although I am happy with the way Loyds/tsb are going about it, I still feel that the Deafblind should not be put on a lower level to the hearing blind. My own bank HSBC sees no need for the key pads, perhaps they feel their security is already better! Regards, Derek e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq