hi andy, not sure if your confusing things or if i am! smile. in order to have virgin media as your ISP, you need to have a cable connection in your property as you did with telewest and NTL, but you don't have to be subscribed to the TV packages.
kevin - (lord l)"Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice"-Will Durant
contact me: email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: lordandladyl----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: BT or not to BT
Ah DJ, that sounds worth a look then; I thought when it was Telewest that meant cable connection rather than bt land line. - Andy----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: BT or not to BT | Andy, | | Do you mean cable as in cable tv? | | if so, no you don't. | | You can just have Virgin Media as your ISP. | | Dj Paddy | Keeping in touch with me: | | Twitter Username- dj_paddy | | Twitter RSS- | http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline/4871941.rss | | BLOG RSS- | http://feeds.feedburner.com/irishgeek | | Email/msn contact: djpaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | Skype: djpaddy | | My websites are mainly used for jumping off platforms, they are | | http://www.djpaddy.co.uk | | http://www.barry-toner.co.uk| ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:06 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: BT or not to BT | | | >I take it you have to be on cable to go with Virgin [think there's a double | > entendre there :]] | > | > - Andy| > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: <deonv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>| > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:31 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: BT or not to BT | > | > | > | We are with Virgin (used to be | > | Telewest/Blueyonder) and don't have the least | > | hesitation, yet, recommending them. | > | | > | On the few occasions I had a problem the person | > | on the technical desk was familiar with the | > | concept of screen readers, knowledgable, patient and resolved the | > problem. | > | | > | What's more there is no broadband limit, prices | > | are good, down-time is minimal and their talk | > | anywhere telephone packages are pretty good buys | > | if you call internationally and to mobiles a lot. | > | | > | Deon | > | | > | At 11:37 30/06/2007, you wrote: | > | >I would get my partner to comment on this one, but as her weekend will | > | >be hectic, I shall respond myself, by saying that from what she's told | > | >me Virgin Media are very good. This might impress you actually. She | > told| > | >me this morning over MSN that the signal quality of her wireless was| > | >excellent and that the speed was 54 MBPS, but boy was her internet | > | >connection fast as lightning! Her AVG updated in seconds, links on web| > | >pages loaded in no more than a second ... I think you'll be impressed| > | >with Virgin Media. Good luck and let us know how you get on with them. | > | >On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:49:35 +0100, "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | >said: | > | > > Hi all, | > | > > | > | > > Looks like we're going to be leaving BT for Virgin Media. | > | > > | > | > > They can't get this broadband sorted. | > | > >| > | > > We've had 5, yes 5 engineers out at the house. Out of all but one| > new | > | > > what | > | > > she, was up to. They constantly wanted to measure signal, even | > though | > | > > yesterday morning a job was specifically booked to measure | > throughput. | > | > > The | > | > > engineer who was booked for the job told me, | > | > > " I wouldn't know anything about that" | > | > > | > | > > When I explained that wholesale and retail couldn't even ping me he | > said, | > | > > "I'll get my collegue to call round as my wee XP laptop wouldn't be | > | > > powerful | > | > > enough for that". | > | > > | > | > > What sortive clowns are these guys employing? | > | > >| > | > > There's been one gentleman in BT though that I have to take my hat| > off | > | > > to. | > | > > He's a young fella like myself and we've screamed at engineers | > together. | > | > > | > | > > We've had the phone line isolated and the modem/router directly | > wired | > to | > | > > it. | > | > > | > | > > We've had battery cleared off the line, then two weeks later a lady | > | > > engineer | > | > > came and actually did clear the battery her male collegue was meant | > to | > | > > have | > | > > cleardd. | > | > >| > | > > We've had a new card, supposably fitted in the D Slam, (Exchange).| > | > > | > | > > 4pm hits and we drop to 40k for all downloads inside the UK servers, | > 19K | > | > > or | > | > > below for outside. | > | > > | > | > > I've been running speed tests and I'm coming back with 1700k out of | > a | > | > > possible 8128k. We're in a good area, close to the exchange, | > (around | > | > > 1500metres), and we recieve the full 8128 signal. | > | > >| > | > > The place over there is a shambles. I'm frankly pissed off by the| > lack | > | > > of | > | > > knowledge their engineers have, this is compounded by them | > attempting | > to | > | > > hide behind jargon. | > | > > | > | > > My XP laptop isnt' powerful enough to try and see if I can ping | > you.... | > | > > | > | > > He didn't have a clue what ping was! | > | > > | > | > > Fair enough, alot of people I'm mailing this to might not. This | > guy's | > a | > | > > field engineer for a broadband internet service provider! | > | > >| > | > > He also tryed to give me BS about signal to noise ratio, and like| > with | > | > > the| > | > > other gentleman I explained about Shannon's theary that's used to| > | > > formulate | > | > > this. | > | > > | > | > > Do these clowns talk this way to all home end users? | > | > > | > | > > Anyways, we're paying these jokers £52 a month for really crappy 8MB | > | > > service | > | > > plus all inclusive telephone calls to LAN lines in the UK. | > | > > | > | > > I'm going to subscribe to £39 a month 20MB cable broadband, plus the | > | > > phone | > | > > calls from Virgin Media. | > | > >| > | > > I've been told by a technician in BT, (naming no names), that he's| > on | > it | > | > > at | > | > > home and he really gets the speeds that are promised. | > | > >| > | > > This guy's good and I trust his judgement. Come on, anything hasto | > be | > | > > better than this rubbish from BT! | > | > > | > | > > I'm tired of arguing, researching and learning about DSL service and | > how | > | > > it | > | > > works so I could force the engineers who did do work when they came | > out | > | > > to | > | > > do what they where and are being payed to do! | > | > > | > | > > We could go for another DSL provider but, yes there's a 50-50 chance | > | > > it'll | > | > > be fine, even if it's using BT lines as they're testing fine. | > | > > | > | > > I really think some routing table at least had went wrong somewhere | > on | > | > > the | > | > > local network. | > | > > | > | > > I dont' want to be writing another email though like this in a | > months | > | > > time| > | > > because another one wont' listen. Let's isolate it completely and| > not | > | > > use | > | > > phone lines or broadband over them. | > | > > | > | > > On that, anyone got any decent Linksys cable router recommendations? | > | > > | > | > > I sold my WRT54G thinking this was going to be great with BT and am | > back | > | > > in| > | > > the market for a wireless router that works with cable modems. N| > | > > technology| > | > > is a must. I'm sure netgear and D Link are quite nice these days| > along | > | > > with | > | > > Belcon but I've always used Linksys and I like they're web utility. | > | > >| > | > > I'll have a look at Linksys site but anything to look for would be| > handy. | > | > > | > | > > Thanks for listening to my tails of woe. | > | > >| > | > > My last piece of advice, educate yourselves or find someone who is| > more| > | > > technically minded to take charge because what I've experienced is| > that | > | > > they | > | > > will hide behind anything they can including outsourced help desks. | > They | > | > > will blame everythign on you, I've had three routers and three | > computers | > | > > tested here. | > | > > | > | > > I've just decided 8MB isnt' worth this hassle when i can go to | > Virgin | > and| > | > > woe be tide the first manager in BT who trys to tell me that they| > dont' | > | > > promise 8MB again! | > | > > | > | > > I know they don't! But 40k and below is not an acceptible level of | > | > > service | > | > > on the low end of the scale! | > | > >| > | > > My suspection is that it's too costly to send field engineer's out| > and | > | > > delay | > | > > tactics may be being applyed in the gise of support. | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > | > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > | > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > | > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | > > ** and in the Subject line type | > | > > ** unsubscribe | > | > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > | > > ** immediately-following link:- | > | > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > | > > ** or send a message, to | > | > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > | > > | > | >Christopher Hallsworth | > | >E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | >Skype name chrishallsworth7266 | > | >MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx | > | > | > | >** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > | >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > | >** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > | >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | >** and in the Subject line type | > | >** unsubscribe | > | >** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > | >** immediately-following link:- | > | >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > | >** or send a message, to | > | >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > | | > | | > | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | ** and in the Subject line type | > | ** unsubscribe | > | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > | ** immediately-following link:- | > | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > | ** or send a message, to | > | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > | | > | | > | -- | > | This email has been verified as Virus free | > | Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net | > | > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ** and in the Subject line type | > ** unsubscribe | > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > ** immediately-following link:- | > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > ** or send a message, to | > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > | | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | ** and in the Subject line type | ** unsubscribe | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | ** immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | ** or send a message, to | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | | | -- | This email has been verified as Virus free | Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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