Gordon, this is interesting, and I'd meant to add a question as to how well Quick Time works on the Mac. I'm glad to hear it does. I've found nothing about keyboard, or other access accomodation via Windows. If any one knows more I'd love to hear. As far as I'm concerned, looks "cool" but total crap otherwise. Cheers, Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Keen Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC I player answers back on in touch Ray Just to point out that Quicktime is perfectly accessible using voice over on my Apple mac book, I use it all the time for listening to audio books in mp3 and I have had no problems listening to streams via the www. As the saying goes, works for me! smile Cheers! G From Bridgerule, Devon, England. Devon, glorious Devon (first verse) Combe and tor, green meadow and lane, birds on the waving bough. Beetling cliffs by the surging main, rich red loam for the plough. Devon's the font of the finest blood that braces England's breed. Her maidens fair as the apple bud and her men are men indeed. On 6 Aug 2008, at 12:02, Rays Home wrote: Well, at least it isn't the Apple Quick Time player we're dealing with here, and that abounds in many podcasts. A greater load of pance in lack of accessability is hard to imagine.