[access-uk] Re: Apple VS Windows

Thanks DJ, will have a look at those.

Dave

I will be purchasing a Mac Book Pro for final year of my Computer
Science Degree.

Reason?

Best of three worlds in one.

Mac, Windows, and Linux all on the one system.

Imagine it, XP or Vista or multiple instances if you're weird or geeky
enough, Lepoard, and say Debian or Ubuntu all on the one portable
computer.

From what I've been reading allot of people are using Mac as a general
computing device.

IMHO it is a big leep and as I've always said to people do not upgrade
to things like this and not have another machine about for mission
critical stuff.

Same goes for screenreader switchovers.

Unless you have the time to say, right I'm using this and nothing else
and haven't an essay, or work to do.

Here's a bunch of useful links I forwarded to a friend about the Mac,

Mac Visionarys,

http://www.macvisionaries.com/

Download link for OS Lepoard with Voice Over Review,

http://www.sendspace.com/file/chbyhs

List of supported applications with Voice Over

http://accessmainmenu.blogspot.com/2007/11/applications-supported-with-v
oiceover.html

Interesting news.com forum entrys,

http://www.news.com/5208-10784_3-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=32607&message
ID=329769&start=-1

Voice Over Manual Page in daisy and mp3 as well as other formats

http://w3.wmcnet.org/dtbmaker/books/vogs/

Dj Paddy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Keen" <gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 7:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple VS Windows


> Works for me!
> Why not try it and find out for yourself if it works for you?
>
> Frankly I had to.
>
> Cheers
> G
> From glorious Devon, England.
>
> On 11 Dec 2007, at 17:22, Graham Page wrote:
>
>> Hi Gordon.
>>
>> All you say is true but for me the clear question is about 
>> functionality.
>> Can I read and edit Word documents, including table navigation?  can
I 
>> read
>> a PowerPoint presentation?  Can I browse complex web pages?  Can I 
>> reliably
>> read email, create email rules and attach and detach files reliably
from
>> emails?
>>
>> Do I have access to a free equivalent of Winamp or similar media
player 
>> that
>> is accessible?
>>
>> I am asking since I don't know the answer to these questions.
However,
>> functionality is clearly one of the main issues to be considered
when 
>> coming
>> to a decision.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Graham
>> Graham Page
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gordon Keen" <gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "Gordon Keen" <gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:55 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple VS Windows
>>
>>
>> Here's an example, leopard came out in November - right?
>> Before the end of November the operating system was upgraded to add
>> functionality to itunes, would microsoft have responded so quickly?
>> You seem to think that having the screen reader built in to the
>> operating system is a bad-thing?
>> However IMHO this ensures that whenever the O.S. is upgraded the
>> software house has to, absolutely has to, ensure the screen reader
>> works with the upgrade on the day the upgrade is rolled out.
>> Does this happen when microsoft rolls out an upgrade or patch?
>> I Don't think so!
>>
>> But look, this is a matter of choice, if you want to stick with a
>> buggy, security flawed system and have to pay each time someone
>> discovers yet another glitch that has to have another iteration of
the
>> screen reader - well that's fine with me but I will be sticking with
>> my choice ta everso.
>> Smile
>> Cheers
>> G
>> From glorious Devon, England.
>> On 10 Dec 2007, at 19:29, Yusuf wrote:
>>
>>> I've changed the subject to reflect where this topic seems to be
>>> going.
>>>
>>> Before I'd consider changing from Windows to an Apple I'd have to be
>>> convinced of the following.
>>>
>>> 1. Apples commitment to continued support of their Screenreader. Yes
>>> its got one now but how often will it be upgraded, how significant
>>> is the Screenreader side of things in terms of the overall
>>> development of the operating system? I mean will the Screenreader be
>>> given the sort of priority that VIP users need or will it get pushed
>>> below other things like better graphical support etc. At least the
>>> way things are at the moment with Windows based PCs I know that
>>> Jaws, Window Eyes, Hal etc are going to be upgraded.
>>>
>>> 2. I have to be convinced that everything I can do at the moment
>>> whether its simple things like moving files, reading email etc or
>>> accessing complex web pages, creating documents in word with
>>> neumerous footnotes, headings etc, can be done by a Blind user using
>>> the Mac and its Screenreader.
>>>
>>> Just on something that someone else said. Personally, I'd prefer
>>> Microsoft to stay out of the Screenreader business. Partly because
>>> they should concentrate on their operating system and partly because
>>> I'm concerned that if Microsoft implemented a Screenreader into the
>>> operating system the Screenreader manufacturers would quicly go out
>>> of business and we'd be left with one dominant Screenreader player.
>>>
>>> Yusuf
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)"
>>> <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 5:29 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Preventing malware?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Derek,
>>>> Derek,
>>>>
>>>> I think "DOS" perfectly describes what the programmers at Microsoft
>>>> do
>>>> all day!  considering how "Popular" windows is, I would have
thought
>>>> they would have made it fully accessible by now without the need
for
>>>> adding expensive software like JAWS.  It is a fact that most people
>>>> who
>>>> use Apple Macs, swear by them, unlike the rest of us, that swear at
>>>> Microsoft!
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> Dave says
>>>>
>>>> "Reliable, easy to use!! I hope you aren't referring to Windows and
>>>> JAWS!!"
>>>>
>>>> Would you  want to turn clock back to the days of DOS?
>>>>
>>>> Oh I  miss the "bat" files. Remember how we could create a file,
that
>>>> would then do  a number of  commands automatically.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Derek
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