Yes, agreed, which is why I would rather buy my phone than take it out as part of a contract. My understanding is that you can now do that with the Iphone. And it is certainly a reason why the LookTel project might struggle because of the subscription charges, plus your phone, then the pay plan. But it is all according to what one can afford and how they prefer to pay for it. Kind Regards, J Jackie Cairns jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn Sent: 09 June 2010 10:39 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com] You really need to do the full total cost. The 199 or 299 whatever unit currency is just the upfront cost of your iPhone. You must factor in your price plan over the two years contract which is pays at least as much again for the handset before you get to any billing for calls or data outside the plan.. At £30 a month over two years this would be £720 over two years plus up to £300 for the phone making £1020 which is far closer to the real cost of what you are doing. When you look at it like this you can see why Apple and the carriers are so pleased with themselves. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk Mail: Tristram: tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Technical: Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx General ? info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Phone: Support line: 0845 634 7979 Sight and Sound Technology Limited is a company registered in England and Wales, with company number 1408275. Sight and Sound Technology Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD VAT Number ? GB 860 2121 66. From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Moore Sent: 09 June 2010 10:19 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com] Hi, I suppose the big question is, how does the price compare between the IPhone and a simm free Simbian along with Talks or any other program to provide speech? If the IPhones are released at the prices mentioned; $199 and $299 for the 4G 16Gb and 32Gb respectively, it will be difficult to compete. Regards, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:24 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com] Hi Dave, There are quite a few phones now that work with Talks quite well. The N97, the N97 Mini, the 5530, the 5800 Express, to name a few. They are all unfortunately touch screens. One of the best phones is the X6 for touch, as it has a capacitive screen, which is like the iPhone. It accepts swipes, double taps, triple taps, etc. All I am saying is, it is not only the iPhone that works with touch. Both Talks and MS work quite well. On all the above mentioned phones, Email works well, and the calendar works pretty well. I don?t like the calendar on the iPhone either, as it always takes you to the first calendar entry you have when you go in, not to today. So even on the iPhone, I don?t think the calendar works that well. All the best Steve From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor Sent: Tuesday 8 June 2010 11:14 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com] Well, I must say Mr Nut, nobody seems to be able to tell me about Symbian phones, IE which ones actually work well with Talks now, including Email, the browser and calendar, and what kinds of keyboards they have. We know everything works on the iPhone and that new aps are coming out all the time, many of which are also accessible. I for one am seriously considering the switch, though I do want to see the iPhone in action at the BCAB Sight Village Plus event, details of which are at www.bcab.org.uk I hope somebody has a good selection of modern phones on their stand and can comment as you always used to Steve, but I think we'd all be interested in basic descriptions of phones and how well they work with talks, if anybody can send them! Cheers Dave From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:52 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com] Oh no, it?s the Apple fan boy again, posting. From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gordon Keen Sent: Tuesday 8 June 2010 09:03 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network ? News [Lioncourt.com] Sounds very good... http://www.lioncourt.com/2010/06/07/apple-unveils-iphone-4-and-new-accessibi lity-features/ Cheers G From glorious Devon, England. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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