I don't think that thing about supernova really applies as much as perhpse it did once. before the release of Supernova version 5 there were no features such as those seen in the other major screenreaders, JAWS and window-eyes. version 5 went some way to correct this, but while in Supernova magnification features were considdered among the best, speech access to the internet was still flaky. I have not had that much opportunity to play with supernova or hal because my demo has timed out but it does seem to me that now things are much more reliable and you can navigate through tables well and move by heading, table, paragraph etc. other programs such as Betsie (probabbly misspelled) from the BBc was an example of a program that aimed to make pages more accessible when the better option would just have been decent design in the first place. Cheers Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: Malcolm Parfitt To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:13 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Announcement - AccessibleNews for IE launched! Why might Supernova users find it good though? ----- Original Message ----- From: David Taylor To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Announcement - AccessibleNews for IE launched! Graham, I tend to agree that people won't pay for it. I really don't think it is possible to do much more than Jaws on the internet right now, though I'm not up to date with Window Eyes and that was always good. Supernova users might find it good though! Cheers Dave __________ NOD32 1.1766 (20060921) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com