They do, but the emoticons wouldn't display as emoticons if you see what I mean; instead they'll display as strange characters.
-- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth----- Original Message ----- From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:06 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosity"Incidently, I don't hear any smilies when written with ;) or similar as i have the amount of punctuation and verbosity set very low to speed up the speech output. This does get confusing when someone asks a question about them, for instance!!"
Sorry Mark didn't mean to confuse you! But couldn't ask about smilys without typing them using punctuation marks!
OK. Wouldn't be an idea then to make Jaws use a similar dictionary for Outlook and IE to the one that is used with MSN? I mean, in your case Mark, how do you deal with emails from outside this list, internet forums and even text messages? Do other screen readers have something akin to the Jaws dictionary? And re the point Chris made about Braille displays, do Braille displays not display punctuation marks correctly then? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Threadgold
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:38 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: An observation and a curiosityThis goes back to the writing of html where the tag for starting a line of code is enclosed in the two signs such as <grin>.
The end of the portion of code is represented by the same word in the characters but with a slash preceding it such as </grin>.
Over time folks have simply stopped putting in the <> signs round the tag.Incidently, I don't hear any smilies when written with ;) or similar as i have the amount of punctuation and verbosity set very low to speed up the speech output. This does get confusing when someone asks a question about them, for instance!!
hth, Mark Threadgold Of all the things I have ever lost, The one I miss most is my mind... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
Sent: 11 November 2008 21:25 To: Access-UK Subject: [access-uk] An observation and a curiosity Hi all, This might be OT, not really sure but here goes.I noticed on this list that people don't use smileys and winks such as :) ;) etc. People rather write smile, wink and what have you. I've never come across this practise on any other emailing list or internet forum. It struck me that even literate computer users on this list do that. So I wander, is there a reason for this practise? Do Braille users find wink signs confusing for instance? Excuse my ignorance, but I rely on my screen reader's speech output and I've never had any problems with reading winks. I started doing what everyone else does on this list and the Jaws list but never asked why!
If there's a good reason behind this I'd be glad to learn it. If there isn't, then IMHO this is a bad habit. What applies to other internet forums I believe should apply here too unless there's a justification for doing otherwise. Am I being pedantic? Would love to here other people opinions!
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